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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 128 points 3 weeks ago

don't be like us here in the US having a convicted felon run the show

[-] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 60 points 3 weeks ago

I don't have an issue with a public servant holding office and having a criminal record. People make mistakes, and people can change. However, I think the fact the current president has made public and copious comments about dismantling the democracy that exists while showing a blatant disdain for the rights of people, that I have an issue with.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

i think we need there to be like… enough time for someone to rehabilitate themselves. trump didn't, and also the nature of his convictions were political corruption.

like. i think we fundamentally agree is what i'm saying, and i oversimplified it for my short little statement. i think there's all sorts of people in prison right now who once out deserve to have their voting rights restored and be allowed to participate in society (drug charges and political imprisonments mostly), but the nature and recency of donald trump's crimes should have disqualified him for running again, but the right is too addicted to power to risk giving it up to do the right thing.

[-] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 12 points 3 weeks ago

I agree, the nature of the convictions should be a factor. I also agree that a sort of "cooldown" from a conviction would be reasonable, before having eligibility for holding political office restored. I've been leary of the simplified "convicts shouldn't hold office" statement though, since the original intention of that lack of disqualification criteria was, to my understanding, to prevent political imprisonment from barring opponents from holding office. That seems like the sort of thing the current administration would jump on if they could, as well.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

that's very fair and i should have been more careful is what i was getting at

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

The "cooldown" would normally be a stint in prison. Unfortunately he was only convicted but not sentenced.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Felons for government admin positions? Fine. But the head of a nation? Especially with the powers that the US political system gives? No way. There are plenty of other jobs that can be taken.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’m very much in favor of felons having access to work, but that doesn’t necessarily mean equal access to every single form of work, and I’d be quite content to ban them from the highest office in the land.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

i did. and i encouraged as many people as i could to do so as well. my struggle is the people saying voting does nothing and the only way to get our scumfuck politicians to do anything is the way malcolm x did. and those people reveal something about themselves when they say that. malcolm x said "the ballot or the bullet." he necouraged democratic participation AND radical action. you have to both. and what's more is voting takes so little effort. i find it hard to believe people who are unwilling to put in the effort to vote are willing to put in the effort to take radical action. and frankly, that's what i see out in the streets. who was protesting with me before the election were people saying we need to vote. and it's all those same people now. i don't see all those "we hate blue maga" people here on lemmy out in real life putting the work in to support the movement of meaningful justice, equity, and peace.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

My condolances.

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