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Trump says he is not joking about third presidential term
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FWIW my issue was never explicitly about Biden's age but his mental capacity, which had clearly declined (he did have some good days tho.)
Trump's mental capacity seems to be about the same as it always was (it was always low, but not as bad as Biden on a bad day.)
Not that I'd vote for Trump either way, mind you.
Bro biden had no problem communicating. He had a speach impediment.
I watch most presidential press briefings and only one of the 80 year old presidents is a senile old fool.
Even if Biden has lost his mind, the remaining parts amounted for more knowledge about government and international affairs than trump ever had.
Biden is gone and our problems are just begining, do me a favor and keep his name out of your mouth.
Biden’s brain was leaking out of his head during the presidential debate, arguably the most important night of his ‘24 run. That was way more than a speech impediment, it was dementia on full display. His staffers have already come out and said they knew he was suffering from serious mental decline as early as ‘22. Stop making excuses for the Dems trying to steamroll through an unfit candidate…it was a dumbass strategy and it cost the nation to such a massive extent we may never recover. We should have upheld the democratic process and held a contested primary instead, and Biden’s legacy will be forever tarnished by refusing to do so.
We also watched as trump sucked off a microphone at one of his rallies, but that didn't seem to affect the outcome of the election, so why does Biden being senile and having dementia even matter?
So because republicans are willing to vote for a piece of shit candidate so should democrats? Fucking lol.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just pointing out the contradiction. "Our candidate must be perfect" meanwhile the other guy is fellating microphones on a stage and mocking disabled people.
I agree that democrats need to run a good candidate, but clearly that's not the most important thing here.
Ok but there’s a large gap between perfect and whatever the fuck you wanna call Joe Biden. Like, Obama was not perfect. Dude was against gay marriage until he changed his mind before his 2nd term. Had he not, he very likely would have lost. But he decided to listen to humans. He was willing to change and ran a campaign for change. Biden ran on “nothing will fundamentally change.” Which… literally no one wants. Theres a lot of reasons democrats have not wanted to vote for the democratic candidate, and thinking like “well trump sucks so it doesn’t matter if ours also sucks.”
Obama was litterally perfect. He had to be against gay marriage to get elected. Thats what you guys seem to be missing. Some times you have to project messaging that contradicts your policy intents.
Like all the Supreme Court justices who did a 180 on Roe v Wade. Some times you just have to fucking lie to the median voter. They don't care they have the memory of a goldfish.
Fucking Lol.
The only thing funny is pretending that some alternative main stream progressive candidate existed in the 21st century. Who is this mysterious progressive candidate you guys are comparing presidents too.
News flash buddy you 'more progressive than thou' liberals are losing elections and the consequences are getting costly.
Saying Obama was literally perfect is just… extremely wild. I mean he was fine, I had issues but whatever, enough to vote for him at least. Issue is plenty of normal milquetoast ass democrats have not voted since Obama because fucking republican-$50 ass candidates do not energize the base. They see no point in going to vote for “nothing will fundamentally change.” Pretending it’s progressives fault is literally the problem with democrats. Progressives literally have been shown to be one of the highest % voting block, and most do still vote Dem, and even those who don’t it’s much less than those that vote libertarian/constitution party. Like, half as many. Yet democrats spend more energy fighting 3rd party candidates than they do fighting republicans. Adopt more Republican policy than progressive policy. Shits just fucking sad.
Yea he was the perfect candidate to win the 2008. & 2012 elections. I base that on the evidence that he won. breaking an 8 year losing streak. Now i think your criticism applies perfectly to Hillary clinton. I base that on evidence that she lost the 2016 election for not being progressive and populist enough.
I support most progressive causes, I'm starting to get really annoyed with progressives losing us elections because you'd rather have your way than a democratic result. Don't like how centerist the median voter is? Well thats a you problem not a median voter problem. the third party voters, and non-voters are certianly to blame here. Third party votes were a vote for trump. None of you are progressive you're active trump supporters.
Jesus. Saying a candidate is perfect, thus there was literally nothing they could have done or been better on… just because they won… is insane. Like, again, I am not saying Obama was terrible. He was fine. But fucking far from perfect.
Yea i just want to know who was a perfect candidate, who was a perfect president. Which president was better than obama and why? Or are you just unicorn hunting to divide the party. Like is that what you do just find something you dont like about a person and say 'he's not perfect so i will not vote'
Thats the vibes i get here. Biden was awful obama was okay, like who do you want running the country, point at a person i can learn about so i can figure out what progressive ideals are about. Seems like its just about hunting for perfection that doesn't exist.
I mean idk if you know the word perfect.
This whole thing started cuz someone was saying progressives need a PERFECT candidate. We don’t. We just need someone who is not actively fighting AGAINST us. A DNC who is pro democracy, not suing to remove 3rd parties from ballots. Not attacking third parties. Someone willing to listen to constituents and adapt policy, plenty of extremely popular policies/positions. Like ranked choice/STAR/etc. voting, universal health care, get money out of politics, etc. I’m not asking for someone to kill all landlords or nationalize the top 100 companies or anything crazy.
Like I said, Obama was ok. He wasn’t perfect, but he at least was adaptable which is why plenty of people would vote for him. He wanted change, we need change, hell Trump won because he will change things. Not for the better, but people are stupid and want any change, since clearly what we currently have is not working. Biden and Clinton were both promising to basically keep things exactly the same, while actively fighting against progress and courting republicans. Kamala just Echoed Biden and also decided to adopt Republican border policy.
He wasn't even a piece of shit. He had a good cabinet, he improved international relationships, improved domestic issues, he was a fine incumbant, he would have been better pick than trump if he was a zombie.
Because Biden should have never run in the first place, and the contest would have been much different if Trump were facing a competent opponent who was nominated democratically.
I agree, although I should also bring up that your argument was about the Biden vs Trump debate, however we also later watched the Harris vs Trump debate where Harris ultimately wiped the floor with him. My point is that clearly the quality of a candidate doesn't matter to the majority of voters, and the quality of how they can debate doesn't matter either.
I think the quality of candidate you’re referring to is quite subjective.
Alternatively, what I’m suggesting is that a democratically nominated (by the voters) candidate would objectively be better positioned to win an election.
Unfit candidate huh. Tell it to the 3 Trillion dollars wiped off the SP500 last week.
What? I've heard him talk from a few years ago, he stumbles over his words occasionally, but Biden's debate performance was not a speech impediment. He was lost, easily distracted, and spoke like he wasn't all there. And the fact that it comes and goes (he seemed fine just a few days later) suggests this is a mental issue, not a life-long thing. I agree with you though, Biden is still better than Trump (I am about as far from being a Trump supporter as one can possibly be and still be on the same political spectrum), and his cabinet was far better, but pretending that it's not a problem is part of why it was a problem.
Also you are cordially invited to fuck all the way off with that 'keep his name out of your mouth' shit. I'm here to have adult discussions about our situation and how we got into it, if you can't handle that then you're welcome to go sit at the kids' table.
Did you see the entire 4 year presidency so you can compare it to the current one or did you just see the debate bro? You realize he was on TV talking every day for 4 years and fox news captured all the speech blunders. It was not that many.
Did you see anything but the debate bro? be honest? Did you say Genocide Joe and Vote Jill Stien and hand the election to trump? Pretending like biden was a bad president is an opinion reserved for Fox news enjoyers. Biden was not the problem you were. The low information voter. The voter that shows up last minute and sorts through a couple narratives and sends it. Or are you the voter that splits the party in the most important election of our life time. Which one are you bro? You don't sound like you need to be discussing politics, you need to be studying it.
Sorry, is it suddenly a problem that I judge a candidate by the campaign they run like literally everyone else?
I only bring up the debate because while there had been gaffes and brain-farts before, this was the most he's spoken at one time in a while and it was real fuckin' bad, man, and anyone with eyes could see it. I dunno if it was a new problem or an old problem getting worse, but I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's the second one since his staff has already spoken out about his issues. I'm not saying Biden was a bad president (certainly not compared to either Trump term so far), and he at least had a competent administration around him. I'm saying he was a bad candidate and should not have run again. You know, like he said he wouldn't.
I look forward to not expecting your vote against trumps 3rd term. Be sure to keep criticizing the dems in the past and not focusing on the authoritarian coup underway!
Why are you guys talking about the debate performance? Is that the only time you watched Biden speak? I watch press briefings 24/7. Biden spoke just fine when he was talking to europe. He spoke fine when he talked to the american people.
But ya he couldnt keep up with trump lying his ass off, go figure. AT 10 PM at night. Sure ya bro go off. you guys are totally spitting. Nothing about policy or government just all debate vibes "dId YoU sEe ThE dEbAtE bRo?"
As his staff has said he has good days and bad, which is pretty common with dementia-related illnesses.
Have you ever been around someone with dementia? Have you ever watched them slowly fade away until they can't even remember their own family members? I have. I remember those 'maybe they're not all there' days, and it was almost worse that they were interspersed with days where they seemed lively and all together and on top of the world, because you know it won't last, because those days will get fewer and further between until they just don't come at all.
Would you elect my grandmother who thinks she's still living under the Hoover administration? I wouldn't.
Yes I lost my grandma to dementia, so I'm a bit offended at you confusing a speach impediment and old age with actual dementia.
I must have clinical dementia too at 35 from smoking to much weed. I forget shit all the time from some light ADD.
Anyway, reality called. You got Dementia Don as president. He's half as lucid and 3 times as dangerous, and he's sorrounded by incompetent Yes-men.
I'm done arguing with you. Bidens corpse would be a better president than Trump. Just down vote me and leave me alone.
Extremely reasonable concerns, I agree. I wish Biden would have passed the baton early on like he said he was going to. I honestly think that cost the Democrats the election.
But given the choice between a declining Biden surrounded by competent people or Trump surrounded by sycophants, I would choose the former.