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[-] Microw@lemm.ee 33 points 2 weeks ago

I would never call a leftist a "tankie" because they are a leftist. People who do that are idiots. The important part of the word is the support of authoritarian regimes.

Which is pretty weird nowadays because neither Russia, China nor North Korea are even communist/leftist anymore.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

China and the DPRK are still Socialist, though different forms. China has a Socialist Market Economy, the DPRK is closer to the Soviet model. Russia is no longer Socialist, that is correct, but is occasionally seen as a temporary ally as they seek to destabilize US Hegemony, a goal they seek for profit and Leftists seek so that Socialism has a better chance worldwide.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

If you define leftism as a pure economy model, then you could call right-wing authoritarian countries with state-controlled economies "socialist" which makes no sense.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know what you mean by a "pure economy model" or how a fully publicly owned economy would be right wing, unless it's a different form of ownership like Monarchism.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

That isn't true though: the Nordic countries are undeniably authoritarian from a leftist perspective, but you never see Nordic model socdems being called "tankies". Failed leftist projects like Catalonia or the Paris Commune were also undeniably "authoritarian" by the definition applied to more successful projects, but supporters of them are never called tankies. The Black Panthers, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, all supported "authoritarian regimes"

What it really boils down to is serious opposition to Western liberalism.

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