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[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago

Why do Americans always think in violence. The American people put a bunch of nazis into power, now you want Europe to fix it with a full out war. It's like the US is full of toddlers. Idiocracy was a meant as a comedy, not a manual.

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

I am not American. I don't want Europe to try and 'fix' the US, my suggestions are merely for the EU to avoid being taken over by the US.

Since the US has put a bunch of nazis into power it's possible it will come to violence or threats of violence. It's better to be prepared. It's also better to act first if you know violence is inevitable.Or you could just acquiesce to any demand when threatened. Tariffs, give your natural resources to US companies, ban gays, ban 'communism' etc.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Or you could just acquiesce to any demand when threatened.

But Europe knows that appeasement works against a violent invader. They proved that was a good strategy in the 1930s.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

How have fascists typically been successfully handled by the international community in the past?

[-] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Look at Germany, education is the answer.

edit: I was wrong, I don't know the answer also I learned America is not a democracy.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I love Germany, but Germany is a democracy. The US isn't. 70%+ of Americans want universal healthcare, but "our" politicians shit on us and laugh. Most Americans want free college, but again, we get zero representation. We want unions, but companies freely fire workers for organizing and our politicians don't care. South Dakota voted to legalize marijuana but the governor told the people they were too stupid to know what they voted for so she had one of the judges she appointed overrule democracy.

I could go on and on and on. Anyone who thinks the US is a democracy is extremely ignorant on the issue. Merely voting isn't a democracy. A representative democracy is only a democracy if the representatives serve the will of the majority.

So get back to me when German politicians start ignoring everything the voters want and start gutting all of their public programs instead and then when politicians who promise to help get elected but do absolutely fucking nothing to help you

[-] Zahtu@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Education can only be used, when there is a side willing to learn. When they disregard history as fiction, there is no point in educating them. You can also see this with the right Shift in rhetoric in German Media and politics with parties Like AfD, BSW and partly CDU, who are straight Up ignoring history or downplaying it.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Germany is your example of a fascist state that didn't require violence to bring under control?

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 weeks ago

Because the US is NOT a democracy and every single right we have was only won through violence. Civil rights? Malcom X and the Black Panthers had to resort to violence. Gay rights? Please see the Stonewall riots. The right to unionize? Workers had to take up guns and fight the police and military multiple times for the mere right to unionize.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It was a call that plans may be required, and honestly that's probably a good idea. The administration has repeatedly declined to rule out violent invasion when explicitly asked about how far they would go for their stated aspirations for Panama, Greenland, and Canada.

If you have a neighbor that keeps talking about how they want your house and they need to give up your house to them, and they have a whole bunch of weapons that they keep waving at your property while saying that they'll do "whatever it takes" to have your land, then you don't just wag your finger at them and say that's bad and ignore the situation.

It's not saying EU needs to do first strike, but they need to be prepared to defend their interests from violence as seems possible to be started by the US, which is an insane prospect I never would have imagined being a real thing in my life.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's like the US is full of toddlers

Because it is. And like toddlers they have shat the bed and expect someone to clean up after them.

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