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Trump might be an idiot, but he is not so much of an idiot to take on the entirety of Europe, who, likely when this happens will have new allies besides the US
I don't think you understand that trump is not only dumb he is also a russian asset. Sure actual evidence is shaky but when there is someone squatting with their pants down, only an completely insane person would claim they are in the process of laying chicken eggs.
A war between the US and Europe would drag in the rest of the world, nowadays that would end in planetary annihilation
If we keep it conventional, we could bring about a new dark age. It would have to go nuclear before we start wondering if the deep sea tube worms will survive. We can definitely end humanity unilaterally, we might need Russia's help to boil the oceans.
Nuclear war would actually cool the oceans. All nuclear bombs combined contain about the same energy as Hurricane Katrina or a small supervolcano eruption. There would be a small fraction of a degree of temporary increase in global atmospheric temperatures, quickly overwhelmed by the nuclear winter as ash and dust in the upper atmosphere reduce global temperatures by several degrees for several years.
The only way I see humanity boiling the oceans is by deliberately releasing global-industrial quantities of super-effective greenhouse gases, actively designed to make the Earth as well-insulated as possible.
Trump will do anything in the safety of his home if he feels like it benefits him. If it has no negative impact for him, he doesn't care. That's why he could start a war with anyone, because he wouldn't go to the front.
Would he be doing that if he attempts to take Greenland?
I'm sure Trump would do what he is doing with Ukraine now, and what America has done in the past. Provide assistance for a massive cost.
There's a chance Trump's successor as fuhrer will be more directly militaristic, but only a chance. Most likely, Putin is still expecting Europe to fold and submit this time he escalates. Probably because he's misread the complacency of the West over the past two decades as a weakness of personality.
Who are you thinking of? Canada's a "shoe in" if you'll take us, of course, but anyone else?
we may actually see a change in status-quo when it comes to china, it is also possible that europe starts warming up more to india, indonesia, brazil and other lesser powers are relations with the US deteriorates, these are the ones i would put my money on when it comes to new allies
Hmm. Would that be politically viable? If they're coming to your rescue militarily the relationship has to be deeper than just trade.
Isn't Europes combined military budget halfway to the moon at this point? Last I heard 180 billion and climbing not including induvidual countries efforts. Missread is a bit of an understatement.
Yeah, even he has to know that if Europe does fight back (as you and me know it would) it will go poorly for him.
I absolutely believe he's that much of an idiot.
I'm gonna stop you right there. Every time we underestimate Trump he shows there is no low and/or stupidity he won't sink to. He's credibly accused of being a Russian asset and has done everything Putin could have possibly wanted in terms of weakening western power and alliances. In like 3 months. Do I think he'll attack the UK or something? No. But he may very well do everything possible to help Russia, including giving them weapons and hurting their enemies...
I don't know... These last few years have led me to never underestimate stupidity. Not that I think this would happen, because I don't think Americans would allow that.
What would they do to stop it?
I don't think he'll have to. With Europe busy infighting and a war on the eastern border, he can snack up Greenland just as he's planning to. Nobody will do anything about it at that point.