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Good time to switch to a European mail provider Tuta with their 62% discount. (tuta.com)

submitted 1 week ago by pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk

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Tuta is a end-to-end-encryption mail and calendar provider. They recently wrote a good blog-post about changing to european services.

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[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really dislike Tuta for their refusal to support SMTP/IMAP and PGP, let alone CalDAV or CardDAV. Posteo's approach is way better.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

SMTP/IMAP

Is this not a deal breaker for, like, everyone?

[-] adavis@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Web apps.

For reference I work for a competing mail provider and the majority of our users don't use SMTP or IMAP, instead exclusively using the web app.

[-] Chastity2323@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

or the app app lol. Tuta has apps on all platforms.

[-] pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Personally never had to use either protocol, what's your use case? - genuinely curios.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Using Thunderbird as opposed to tuta's quite barebones client:

delayed messaging
message scheduling
local backup of mails
no email import
desktop app failures (happens quite often to me that I just can't log in)

Not to mention other external QoL functionalities like a home assistant tablet being able to display a family calendar and being able to automate based off of events

[-] pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Defo some good points here that I had not thought of, am too used to using webclients. Though Tuta does have an mail import feature.

[-] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Tuta's discount is tempting, but I've also seen StartMail doing 50% off lately. Definitely feels like a good time to test a couple out, especially if you care more about UX than just encryption.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Sadly, no calendar on startmail which is a non-starter for getting my family on it.

Seems to be nothing really with mail + calendar + encryption + IMAP from a smaller company.

[-] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not sure if it's encrypted,b but mailbox.org has email + calendar + I can add it to K-9 and Geary (so I think it does support IMAP?)?

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Nice! I am thinking either mailbox.org or posteo. They have IMAP. They support pgp indeed it seems. One of those might be a winner!

[-] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Have you already tested it out?

[-] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I have been using mailbox's light (1€/month) tier, which doesn't include the calendar, so I can't really tell you about its quality.

What I can tell you though, is that it has worked great with K-9 and Geary and everyone I have emailed has recieved it and it hasn't gone to any spam folders or such.

[-] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How do you use email without SMTP/IMAP?

[-] Player2@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Posteo has no custom domain support, deal breaker for me. As far as I understand they don't support IMAP in order to keep their encryption working, and I believe others like Proton do the same thing. Since their webapp is good and they even have an official client on Fdroid, I don't think it's a big deal

[-] Darohan@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

For people who want custom domain support, as well as SMTP/IMAP, but still euro-based, Nubo may be more what you're looking for if you're OK with dealing with a newer company.

[-] Player2@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

That's pretty cool, haven't heard of this service before. The website is a little light on technical details but I do like the co-op model.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Just started a test subscription with posteo... I'm rather disappointed they don't allow to view the email previews in vertical columns. Their layout is horizontal only and can't be changed. It's a very small pet peeve, but i wasn't expecting not being able to change that :(

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

What do you use smtp/imap for?

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

Email apps.

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