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So what ARE the current "good" VPN services? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 6 days ago by NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I've used proton for a year or two now and it is fine. Great for use on my phone when I want to use public/airport wifi and it sort of kind of works with gluetun (the rotating port is annoying but it still is a forwarded port).

But I've increasingly been annoyed with Proton as a company and am looking to migrate my email/domain to fastmail in the very near future. I COULD continue to just pay for the vpn (60 USD a year is pretty reasonable) but also feel like this is a good opportunity to "shop around"

Checked the wiki and other FAQs (which all basically crib from said wiki) and they all basically boil down to proton or mullivad... except that mullivad apparently stopped allowing port forwarding which is a bit of an issue for any torrents and the like.

So are there any other good options?

Thanks

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[-] DARbarian@fedia.io 44 points 6 days ago

AirVPN, IVPN, Mullvad, Windscribe

[-] kbal@fedia.io 36 points 6 days ago

The requirement for port forwarding narrows that down to AirVPN and Windscribe, which is an unfortunately small set of choices.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 15 points 6 days ago

What exactly does port forwarding do and why is it better for torrenting like I've heard? I've been using Mullvad for a couple of years now but if I could get faster torrent download speeds that would be great

[-] kbal@fedia.io 37 points 6 days ago

Port forwarding lets you connect with other hosts peer-to-peer which a VPN would otherwise block if both sides are behind one. For torrents you'd get more peers (which doesn't matter if you're just downloading the latest and most popular stuff) and be able to seed more effectively.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago

And the way that many (most? (all?)) private trackers implement their monitoring kind of requires an open port.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago

Not all torrent sites require an open port. E.g. MAM works without an open port. It majorly impacts your ability to seed) but that isn't a problem because of how much bonus points you get. TL does not either.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago

Thanks!

[-] Nursery2787@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

One port must be open for a torrent connection to work.

Down: open, Seed: Open = instant connection Down:closed, seed: open = connection takes a second to work Down open: seed closed = down has to wait for seed to renounce to trackers. A few minutes to an hour. Down closed: seed closed = no connection

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago

Just adding onto the good answer you already got, but the thing that made this click to me was understanding that if you're not port forwarding, you're limited in the connections you can make to other peers. Specifically, you can only connect to peers who are fully available. Whereas if you're port forwarding, then you can connect both to people who are limited, and to people who are fully available.

I imagine you would get faster download speeds if you were port forwarding, but my impression is that this mainly is a factor for seeding, which matters more if you're on a private tracker that requires a certain download/upload ratio; it's way harder to keep that ratio above 1.0 if you're limited in the peers you can connect to.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

AirVPN

I have been a happy customer with them. Not a fan of their GUI Client, but you're not required to use it. Very easy to share access with friends too whenever they need it.