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If rolled out widely, this would make web browsers and third-party YouTube clients without a DRM license unusable for YouTube playback, download, etc. This would include almost all open-source web browsers and almost all third-party YouTube clients. Archive link to reddit post about this

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[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Y'all could just pay 🤷‍♂️

[-] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Make the app worth paying for. I pay for Nebula because its worth it

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Then don't use it f you like nebula. Why are you all wasting time bitching about an app that's not worth it?

[-] USSMojave@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because they are thieves and hate having that pointed out to them

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago
[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Better than being poor and delusional about being entitled to steal 🤣

I honestly love the bootlicker tag. It tells me everything I need to know about your alignment with reality. You just want to be mad to argue on the Internet. Nothing based in reality to offer. A sad deplorable existence.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Woah now, be careful or you'll choke on all that corpo dick.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Keep on going, almost there

[-] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's always ethical to steal from billion dollar corporations

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, but you have the expectations of them making it easy?

Folks in here feel entitled to the easy of blocking ads while simultaneously decrying the value of the service and refusal to pay.

[-] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've never actually found it difficult to bypass the ads, despite their attempts. Literally, at least for now, you can use uBlock to block the warning lol

life finds a way

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

I do pay and I use SmartTube. If it stops working, I'll stop paying.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The only legit complaint in this thread. I agree, that sucks ass. Shit like that makes stuff like f1tv(garbage app) bearable. I'd have quit without F1 multiviewer.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

I used to when the price was fair for family plan, but now I'm on the high seas. It's a price issue, they are making billions , no need to fleece us.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

False. Fake news. You've just invented that out of nowhere like a desperate trumpet who doesn't know how to use Google.

YT has never made a dime unless that's changed in the last year. YT has always been a loss leader.

Stop lying to win internet arguments. It's pathetic and sad.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Your info is very outdated, YouTube made billions in profit for years already

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't matter what YouTube makes. They belong to google, and the data they harvest goes to google as well. Their algorithm's influence on what people see and on their opinions contributes to google's success and political interests, just as Xitter does for Musk. And by staying "free" to use, they ensure that no competitor will likely rise up and take those benefits from them. If they try to shut out third party apps and browsers, that's because by forcing people into Chrome they can harvest even more data.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

I know you’re getting downvoted here but there is a valid question there. It’s the largest streaming site on the internet which takes up massive amounts of storage and bandwidth. How do people propose it’s paid for? You generally either have to have ads (which it seems everyone hates) or you pay for a subscription (which everyone hates). So what is the best model to offset that cost? It’s not a public service.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

The problem isn't ads or subscription fees, the problem is ads and subscription fees in addition to the data scraping. Google, and by extension Youtube, harvest your data from all over the internet and use it to sell ads. The data and CAPTCHAs you see all over from Google are trackers (that's how clicking a box can determine you're human) that ars harvesting data and fingerprinting your device to make you easier to identify.

In 2025, do you really want a demonstrably evil company that supports the American kleptocracy to have access to your data?

In comes freetube and invidious: responses to the above problem. By acting proxy to youtube you avoid the ads (which contain spyware) and you avoid downloading site data from Google (which likely contains spyware).

It isn't a payment issue, and the pirates aren't upset about costs, it's just that in the age of glass walls online, we want our fucking privacy back.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Okay. So if they were willing to stop the data scraping, how many people do you think would be willing to pay for a subscription or increased ads to offset the costs?

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

More than you'd think, but if folks are like myself than not as many as g-daddy would need to justify the switch to a more legitimate model.

Personally, when a company unilaterally decides it can do whatever the 🦆 it wants with my data, I believe that road goes both ways, so I'll do whatever the 🦆 I want with theirs. Including downloading it without paying.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

None of them. You know this answer. They would screech if it were $50 a month.

Just bring up kagi and see how many folks make up excuses why they suck and ain't worth it.

They just want a post facto reason to justify their pirating and stealing. They never were going to pay.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

None of them.

Yeah. That's why Netflix went out of business so quickly.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You don't think Netflix scrapes your data to offset the price?

Y'all jumping through some wild hoops to win an internet argument 🤣

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

You're acting like A) it's not part of a company pulling down billion dollar profits and B) any loss isn't being used to depress tax paid by other arms of said company

[-] melfie@lemmings.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Part of the reason why I self-host is to avoid being tracked under my real identity that is required for payment. No way I’m paying a big corpo with a surveillance capitalist business model to spy on me to avoid their ads. Sounds akin to paying the mafia for protection.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I support that. Why do you care about drm of YouTube then if you aren't using it?

[-] melfie@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Obviously, you know the answer. Yes, I take your point about paying for something that provides value, and generally would agree if not for the corrupt political system that allows a corporation like Google to have the near complete hedgemony that YouTube enjoys. As it stands, there are basically 4 choices right now:

  1. Watch ads and let them spy on you
  2. Pay them while they still spy on you with a guaranteed real identity
  3. Use smaller platforms that have few creators contributing content, many of which are for-profit and may one day go public and turn into something resembling Google today
  4. Use ad blockers / alternative clients to have your cake and eat it too. 

Since Google also wants to have their cake and eat it too by charging you while still tracking you, and at the same time, mistreating the users and creators responsible for their success, it follows that the members of a left-leaning and tech-savvy community like Lemmy would overwhelmingly choose option 4 while also doing option 3 whenever possible.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

We already do, and this is what we get.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Do people not recognize obvious bait anymore? Why did this comment get so much engagement?

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not bait. I think the service offers value and is worth the $15 a month if you use it a lot.

This is the media equivalent of leaving a shit steam review with 2000 hours clocked.

[-] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

$15/yr and I'd be down. $15/mo can eat my ass.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is the media equivalent of leaving a shit steam review with 2000 hours clocked.

There's a vast difference between Steam being good, and the content in Steam being good.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not when I can't even get a DRM-free MP3 from the payments. If I could, I'd reconsider that.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I know I know, that's how the world works. You as the buyer get to set the terms 🤣

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A community for the discussion of topics surrounding DRM, Digital Rights Management.

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Digital rights management (DRM) is the management of legal access to digital content. Various tools or technological protection measures, such as access control technologies, can restrict the use of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works. DRM technologies govern the use, modification and distribution of copyrighted works (e.g. software, multimedia content) and of systems that enforce these policies within devices. DRM technologies include licensing agreements and encryption.

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