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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

stranded astronauts from the ISS

The Facts Behind the Delayed Return of U.S. Astronauts

In response to Musk’s claims, several astronauts took to X to refute the idea that the astronauts were purposefully abandoned. Andreas Mogensen, a former SpaceX astronaut from Denmark, posted: “What a lie. And from someone who complains about lack of honesty from the mainstream media.” In response to Mogensen, Elon replied: “You are fully rеtarded. SpaceX could have brought them back several months ago. I OFFERED THIS DIRECTLY to the Biden administration and they refused. Return WAS pushed back for political reasons. Idiot.”

Mogensen responded by stating, “Elon, I have long admired you and what you have accomplished, especially at SpaceX and Tesla. You know as well as I do, that Butch and Suni are returning with Crew-9, as has been the plan since last September. Even now, you are not sending up a rescue ship to bring them home. They are returning on the Dragon capsule that has been on ISS since last September.”

Steve Stich, the program manager for NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, said after the determination was made that Williams and Wilmore should not return on the Boeing Starliner, NASA officials met with SpaceX officials and considered “a wide range of options” and ultimately decided to attach the astronauts to the previously scheduled Crew-9 mission.

“When we looked at the situation at the time, we had a Crew-9 launch in front of us, it made sense to take the opportunity to bring Crew-9 up with just two seats and have Butch and Suni fill in and do the rest of the long duration mission,” said Dana Weigel, manager of NASA’s International Space Station Program.

“We thought the plan that we came up with made a lot of sense, and that, especially for Butch and Suni we know they’re experienced astronauts, they’re great in space,” Bowersox said. “We knew they’d be great additions to the crew and we knew that for most astronauts, spending extra time on orbit’s really a gift. And we thought they’d probably enjoy their time there. So we thought it was a good way to go … for a lot of reasons.”

see also: NASA astronauts — from space — discredit Trump claims they’re stranded

@alkbch@lemmy.ml is any of the above news to you, or were you aware of this already when you posted your "stranded astronauts from the ISS" comments?

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, I am aware of the situation. The astronauts were stranded. Full stop. Whatever Musk may or may not have proposed when Biden was president is irrelevant to my statement.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

So facts don't matter to you. Got it.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

The fact is they were stranded. They couldn’t go back to Earth when initially planned, nor at any time before the following mission ended.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

The fact is they were stranded.

The astronauts said "we don't feel abandoned, we don't feel stuck, we don't feel stranded", because they were prepared for this contingency. And they object to this nonsense framing too: "Help us change the rhetoric, help us change the narrative. Let’s change it to ‘prepared and committed."

They couldn’t go back to Earth when initially planned, nor at any time before the following mission ended.

You are simply mistaken. At all times there were multiple options available for them to go back early if it ever became necessary to.

Changing the planned duration of a mission is not the same as being "stranded".

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yes they could go back to Earth in case of an emergency and would have to take the other passengers with them prior to the end of their missions. They couldn’t not return to Earth simply because they decided they wanted to go back.

It’s great they didn’t feel stranded though, makes it less unpleasant to pass time while being stranded there.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

They were not "passing the time" (more than people on ISS always are... 🤡).

The decision was made in August that they would join the Expedition 71/72 crew.

As a result, Stephanie Wilson and Zena Cardman did not get to fly on Crew-9.

Yes they could go back to Earth in case of an emergency and would have to take the other passengers with them prior to the end of their missions.

It would have been prior to the end of their own missions as well, since they became members of Expedition 72.

They couldn’t not return to Earth simply because they decided they wanted to go back.

Do you think astronauts ever go to space with the expectation that they can "return to Earth simply because they decided they wanted to go back"? 😂

[-] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Facts don’t matter to this one folks!

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