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Greta Thunberg found guilty of failing to obey police at climate protest
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her punishment was a 2500 SEK fine? They've just told the entire country that we can pay the equivalent of a new bicycle to block oil tankers, this is amazing.
Dagsböter, though, so it is based on income.
Which sorta just makes it better since it'll be lower if you're poor lol
This seems like a very good trade.
Where the hell do you get a new bicycle for 2500 SEK? I paid 2 or 3 times that for a midrange bike (in Estonia, admittedly). 2500 SEK is good used bike territory.
Eh maybe if you only want to cycle slowly around town, sure. For me, a bicycle is more for exercise than transportation.
It's kinda the same as saying 8k EUR gets you a new car. I mean yeah, it's technically true, it gets you a Dacia Sandero, but most people will still go for something they can actually enjoy.
what? this is a standard bike that anyone here would consider a proper bicycle, perfectly usable.
Like, the netherlands (where almost everyone rides a bike on the regular) is known for largely consisting of this kind of bike, it's all you need and buying something more expensive just poses a risk of theft or damage.
Difference in cycling cultures I suppose. Around here this would be considered an old lady bike. It's great for slowly cruising around the city, but I just wouldn't feel comfortable at high speeds, or on trails, etc. I prefer to get everywhere fast like a bat out of hell (an ADHD trait, going anything but my full speed, full-on anaerobic on my commute even, feels wrong and tedious) and need a single bicycle to work on roads, streets and trails, so I got this low-mid range hybrid. This is the most common type of bike here (well actually now fatbikes are more common, but that's a stupid trend. And I suppose full-on mountain bikes are very popular too).
Well, you're right, this is a bike meant for transportation, not sports. Still counts as a bike though, so original comment is right too. Everybody in the Netherlands and Belgium has one of these (and if you wanna do cyclocross or bmx or fast road cycling, you have a second, third, ... bike)
Ah yeah Estonia is not rich enough for everyone to buy 5 bikes so we buy one that can do everything.
I spy a disturbing lack of racks and baskets and places to attach packs to go grocery shopping on your hybrid though. ;) Many city people don't own a car (or only use it for taking their sports bike out of the city), so I guess they use their gas money for that. I wouldn't know, I'm a one (utility) bike only person as well.
Ah but that's what a backpack is for, to be used only when needed. Why would I want extra weight on my bicycle, it'll slow me down! lol
Because I can't fit a crate of beer in my backpack, ofcourse!
Fair enough, I have a car for that. Can't drive back, but then again, cycling drunk is illegal too.
That's what bikes are for.
That's what THAT bike is for. A good bike can be used to actually get to places in time. Hence why I didn't know people under 60 get those in other countries.
I'm just saying it's weird to call the bare minimum "the price of a new X" in a comparison.
Bicycles for commuting are fundamentally different from bicycles for sport. Some languages literally have different words for the two.
Lol a Jula bike..
You should read up on dagsböter.
D'ya like dagsböter?