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[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Follow me here. Society has become very accepting, and progressives have been very successful in the long run (as is the norm). That makes being a conservative "counter-culture."

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago

Society is still addicted to hierarchy. Punks are against hierarchy. Conservatives fucking love hierarchy.

Conservatives may be counter culture, but they will never be punk.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 days ago

Also, you don't get to call yourself "counter culture" when you are in charge of the most powerful country on the planet.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Also, you don’t get to call yourself “counter culture” when you are in charge of the most powerful country on the planet.

You do when you have a massive victim complex.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago

You don't get to, but you will anyways because you fucking suck.

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Well, being in charge doesn't mean you are aligned with the majority.

Society is still addicted to hierarchy

You make it sound like its gonna change somehow.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

It's not. Humans are the worst. Only option is to leave society.

Why are humans the worst? Most animals have hierarchy. It's the most natural thing. Why are you trying to escape it?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah. Are you suggesting that I should be instinctively repulsed by the nature of humans?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Well, considering I'm a human myself, and it's not like humans were better at some point in time... I'll pass

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

We've been awful for a long damn time. And the worst part is I'm one of them.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago

not all counter culture is punk tho. Granola hippies are not punk by any stretch of the imagination. Neither is anyone who has ever stepped foot in a Brooks Brothers store.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

The fuck is a Brooks Brother store? Sounds like some WASP yuppie shit.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Oh buddy. It's THE store for WASP yuppie shit.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

So mind if ya give an elaboration about it? Cause the name doesn't exactly give away too much, like maybe it's some weird Spencers like store or it could be a clothing store just off of the name.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

It's seriously just the clothing store for the button down crowd. Been around since the 1800's, an American institution. Just go to their website, it's yuppie clothing 100%

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

That fucken Brooks Brothers looked it up an yeah I'm gonna stick to Duluth for my white people clothing. Also for some reason I was not processing that it was connected to the Brooks Brother riots.

[-] Monzcarro@feddit.uk 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I wrote my own comment before seeing yours. I see what you are getting at, but this is all theatre. Straight white Christians still hold the power and the wealth, it just suits the oligarchy to pretend they don't.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

But even if they don't, the counterculture was a push for freedom and the left may sometimes be incendiary and contains its issues with how we interact with hisrorically prioritized groups, ultimately we're not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to be straight or white or Christian. What we're saying is that straightness, whiteness, and Christianity shouldn't be prioritized over others. Christians are the harder group to reconcile with as many see the right to oppress as fundamental to their religion, but outside of that nobody minds that Joe believes in Jesus if he's not making it our problem

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