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[-] seeigel@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

As the name implies, libertarians want to be free.

Tyranny.gov rules by law which prohibits what you are allowed to do and thus think, thus limiting freedom.

Tyranny.com has no laws, just costs, which can be restructured by a single person. Thus the person feels free.

[-] SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

All libertarians care about is how they can make money and benefit from a situation.

They don't care others are getting fucked as long as they can have their tea.

They don't actually want a free market, they want a market where they can burrow their tendrils deep into society and suck off as much as they can.

[-] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Then they are not libertarians but something else. This doesn't make those people less problematic, though.

[-] lumony@lemmings.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dunno. At some point you have to recognize that's what libertarians are when the overwhelming majority of them fit his description.

Instead of trying to argue that most libertarians "aren't true libertarians," you'd be better off finding a different word to describe what you want to communicate.

I'm a firm-believer that libertarianism is a way to grift working class people who think they're better than other working class people.

[-] shorap@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. It reminds me of every libertarian that called into The Majority Report to debate Sam Seder over the years.

The callers would all say that they were the true libertarian and all the others weren't. Then as the debate went on they would spout the same shit as all the other libertarians.

[-] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

To your believes: Welcome to the end of the Sovjet Union.

We are living in a consumer society because people want to be free without being free. Which interestingly allows 'libertarians' to exist because common workers don't want to be quotation-mark-free libertarians and defend their freedom.

I like how the development of the word makes your point. The word lost its meaning and became kind of an insult. How can the working class not be grifted when they lose the words to analyze their situation?

The problem with tyranny.gov is that the 'libertarians' of today will become the officers and ministers of tyranny.gov. So instead of calling them 'libertarians' we should call them something else or everything will stay the same just with new names.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

You European? This meme's most likely referring to American Libertarianism, which is described by Ayn Rand and is actually Anarcho-capitalism. Think more 'Atlas Shrugged' than anarchism.

[-] seeigel@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks. I should have known.

[-] IndigoCereal 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you, I am European and had trouble interpreting the comments, now everything makes sense

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

has no laws, just costs, which can be restructured by a single person. Thus the person feels free.

Is also something american libertarians would say. It is also why they are stupid or just pro oligarchy.

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