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34,000 people showed up for Bernie and AOC in Denver
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Yeah that’s definitely what America needs. Another fracture.
two parties do not constitute a political whole.
having only two parties in a democracy is a sign of weakness and sickness in the political system.
political parties representing people are not "fractures".
Only two parties is a sign of a First Past the Post voting system and people that understand basic electoral strategy.
incorrect, "patriot"
What a stunning and well thought-out rebuttal.
i hoped you might just be able to follow that. you're welcome.
What Bernie and AOC are begging of you is not to make the right move, but just to make a move. Get off your ass and run for office, any office, school board, city council, county board, local transit authority, state assembly member, Congress, fucking anything. You don't have to choose the right party, worry about that later, the right choice is to just get out there and start running on your platform. Though they do strongly imply that it would be very, very helpful to primary the centrist, corporate Dems.
Kind of close!
"not to make the right move, but just to make a move."
focus in on this part.
I never said they do. I just don’t think this is the time to overhaul the whole system when the first priority should be to steady the ship. You can’t fix things if you’re just struggling to stay afloat. Fixing things requires a certain level of stability.
Dems aren't steadying shit, they're taking up space that could be used by someone to do something useful.
"I just don’t think this is the time to overhaul the whole system"
how do you contend encouraging political stability overhauling the system?
"the first priority should be to steady the ship.
steadying the ship is literally what this protest is about, providing stability while the executive branch is trying to conquer and invalidate the judicial and legislative.branches.
"You can’t fix things if you’re just struggling to stay afloat."
yes you can. That's what SOS calls, bilge pumps, pontoons, tar, patches and welds are for, to fix problens on boats.
you're advocating to give up and sink when you can repair things.
ridiculous.
"Fixing things requires a certain level of stability."
the necessary level of stability is far below what you clearly misunderstand.
We have that stability, what we need is political, legal and judicial actions liked the ones happening every day now fighting against the executive branch.
The literal nationwide protests by tens of thousands of citizens, judges, politicians and lawyers constitute that saving grace.
Be me
Paramedic
Patient is very sick, circling the drain
Oh God oh fuck I can't treat them and stabilize them, they're unstable
haha, great example.
"Sadly, there's nothing we can do. Our training, available equipment, medications and infrastructure are only for stable patients."
Send it BLS next time.
Dude, that's all they ever send.
So when is the time? The midterms? The presidential election?
Reforming the democrats in four easy steps:
Now's not the time
Not this year
This is really a bad time, okay?
Definitely not this year, are you crazy?
It's a sign of corruption and rigging
political parties?
how?
Having only two parties cycling in power for a century is a sign of corruption and rigging
america has the oldest and worst constitutional system
Rather a replacement
Replacing institutions externally isn’t nearly as easy as rebuilding them internally. A new party in a country where a vast majority votes along traditional family lines is not going to gain any momentum in the time frame that the US needs to correct course. They’re a lot better rebuilding dems internally and keeping the existing external branding. It’s the internet so here’s my uneducated and uninformed opinion: a more progressive offshoot of the Democratic Party external to it only makes sense if the Dems win a few elections on the trot. Otherwise it’s just going to be the same as cutting one’s nose to spite their own face.
The reason we have arrived here is because no one wants to do the hard work of MAKING a functional society. We all do JUST BARELY ENOUGH for it all to not fall apart, do everything the easiest way possible, never mind the results being shit.
Obviously it would be easier to reorganize the Dems. But it would be poisoned from the beginning.
Right? The two parties we have are doing such a fantastic job representing the people already, why break from the status quo now?
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