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[-] rockhard@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

I had conversations with many an accelerationist who supported Trump over Harris on Gaza. Pretty sure they were just full of shit and spreading misinformation.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I had conversations with many an accelerationist who supported Trump

uh huh, sure you did.

[-] rockhard@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

When people were actively arguing that Dems would be worse than Trump on Gaza they were either stupid or accelerationists. Especially considering these are self proclaimed "leftists" who apparently think Trump will usher in a tankie uprising. Not them of course, social media is full on revolutionary activism so they won't be doing anything.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

So tell me, did genocide and the destruction of 92% of the housing in Gaza happen on Bidens watch or not?

< and heres the part where I predict that you will downvote and run away, or reply angrily without answering this question>

[-] rockhard@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

The fact that you couldn't see that Trump would be inarguably worse and/or didn't care is why Palestine is going to wiped off the map and be but a footnote in history.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Theres that predicted avoidance to engage with the facts.

So this stuff we argue about evidently has nothing to do with the fact that Biden could have stopped the zionist gencoide of civilians but instead he chose to fund it and enocurage it. And Harris (with zionist funding, a zionist husband, zionist campaign advisors) promised to continue the genocide with no changes, same as trump. Pressuring Biden/Harris to change during the election was never on your radar was it. You hoped Harris would win and would.. not do what he said she'd do? and just throw that sweet sweet massive AIPAC funding funnel? Because you believe politicians care what the people think after the election happens?

Seems like wishful thinking to me. Seems like the only time we have leverage as voters is during the election. And even then its up to our candidate to listen to the data and act on it.

The way I see it, Biden started a genocide, Trump and Harris both have pledged to continue it. Biden could have stopped it at any time. So could Harris during her campaign. And we had a time-bounded opportunity to pressure Biden/Harris to change but you lot were too scared to take it. I applied what pressure I could so evidently this entire genocide is my fault, does that sum up your assertions here?

[-] rockhard@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

You didn't predict anything. But it's clear only one of us is angry. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I will! Let me hold the door for you, buh bye.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Seems like the only time we have leverage as voters is during the election.

And you predictably used that 'leverage' to make things much worse. Now we have 700 people routinely killed in one day under Trump, with total apathy from preople who used to cry 'genocide'. Everybody with common sense knew that Gazans would be way worse off with Trump in the WH. Both the big increase in killings under Trump and the increase in apathy about the killings under Trump were things that we already knew were going to happen under Trump back when irresponsible people were crying "genocide" during the election. There was never any chance that you were going to improve things by doing that and the entirely predictable result in increases in both killings and apathy.

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