FINAL UPDATE
@bdonvr, admin of The Lemmy Club has, in my opinion, responded in good faith to the concerns raised in this post, and so I have withdrawn my proposal for defederation. In summary:
- They will no longer be allowing conservative/right wing communities on their instance
- A couple of accounts were banned ( marathon and Bernard )
- "realcaseyrollins decided to voluntarily close /c/news@thelemmy.club, /c/censorshipnews@thelemmy.club, and /c/opeds@thelemmy.club."
Personally, I think this is just about the ideal outcome, and I hope this will convince folks to give The Lemmy Club another chance.
The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from "The Nazi Bar" problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.
The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn't seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:
This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.
Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.
Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.
Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).
I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:
If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.
can't fix people. I was recently doing work marketing tooling via ML, and had to point out to people that we may get companies that are fascists and what we wanted to do when it occurs.
My personal stance was to charge them significantly more in order to drain coffers. harder to do with communication systems besides blocking them. but part of my argument was those companies would provide good training data for building tools that identify their content for automatic removal/prevention.
So if this admin allows it on his instance, let him. thats his problem. imo best they self congregate so we can track/manage them via tooling than constantly having to find were they went to next.
eventually I'll get around to building tooling and having a instance with a history of data and an activate fascist user base will be a useful dataset.
Fair point. Let's see how the vote goes :^)
agreed, im not too worried either way. defederating is easy can do it whenever. =)