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It has been clearly demonstrated that vocal opposition to one of those things gets you disappeared by ICE
How many American citizens have been disappeared by ICE?
Saying that the right to protest is exclusive to citizens is certainly an... interesting stance...
But looking just at citizens: ICE has already harassed and arrested scores of citizens based on racial profiling. The agency deported as many as 70 citizens during Trump's first term.
There have been allegations of more US citizen deportations in these first 3 months of his presidency. I can dredge up those examples if you'd like, but don't have them readily on hand.
What does "70 potential U.S. citizens" mean? Were they U.S. citizens or not?
I'm not saying the right to protest is exclusive to citizens, I am saying the excuse of potentially being disappeared by ICE does not apply to the vast majority of people.
It's like 6 sentences in.
We've already narrowed that vast majority down quite a bit, I would bet anything that a visa (much less a green card) holder wouldn't face this much retaliation in October 2023.
There are about 50 million foreign-born residents in America, so in 3 months this administration has frozen the political voice of ~15% of the population.
They make up ~20% of the working age population, so if you're someone in the get-out-and-protest demographic that gives you decent odds of it theoretically not ending poorly. I guess you could say that's a vast majority, but it was nearly 100% before.
We're on pace for 50% suppression by the end of the year (20% silenced in a single quarter) and punishment will certainly be retroactive. You can understand the dilemma of 50/50 future odds you end up in jail for exercising your constitutional rights.
What do you mean by foreign-born residents? Plenty of Americans are "foreign-born residents"
How do you figure 50% suppression by the end of the year?
People with Visas, permanent residents and immigrants. The administration's argument for the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil explicitly states that his residency rights are void since "we didn't know he was a Terrorist at the time". You can extend that argument to literally any foreign born individual.
50% is napkin projection based on 20% suppression every three months (0.80^3^). Obviously it makes a lot of assumptions but the crackdowns haven't slowed yet, much less plateaued. I mentioned it to show how tenuous opposition can get even for "safe" demographics.
The administration is already posturing for this suppression: labeling vague groups like antifa as terrorists, threatening funding for universities fostering protests, statements about "illegal protests", invoking the Alien Enemies Act, etc... It's not a huge leap to extrapolate to how sweeping these measures will be.
I’m trying to tell you many “foreign born residents” are actually US citizens.
Besides, your assumption is very hypothetical and not rooted in reality.
Zero.