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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 32 points 2 days ago

It never made sense to me how popular discord was to begin with.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 30 points 2 days ago
  • persistent IRC style chat rooms
  • virtual “servers” to organize said chat rooms, manage privileges, control visibility
  • integration with bots for all sorts of things (moderation, user welcome, dice rollers, etc.)
  • integration with games/music players/etc (I don’t use it but it’s very popular)
  • privacy and moderation controls
  • client allows fine grained notification controls
  • voice, video, and screen casting simultaneously
  • “server” templates: use an existing server config (roles, permissions, rooms, etc.) when creating a new server.

That’s just off the top of my head.

It’s enshittifying, but the value proposition is still hard to beat. I’m really hoping Matrix catches up with the feature set soon.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Its popularity is more inertia based

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Really? Is there an alternative that hits all the points above? I’m really asking.

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago

I'm not subject to intertia. I could move my friends to an alternative in a week. Tell me which alternative has all those features and I'll switch.

[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 40 points 2 days ago

@Xanza@lemm.ee Among my friends, it replaced Facebook Messenger, Teamspeak, and Mumble instantly. It was fast and the voice quality was excellent. The appeal in 2017 was obvious. The bloat that it had tacked onto it since then is egregious.

Don't get me started on the "rewards"...

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

Don't forget free servers.
On TS3 it was to either know a friend that rented/hosted it, rent/host it yourself or use a public server.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

The bloat that it had tacked onto it since then is egregious.

VCs gotta make back that ROI...

[-] Comtief@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Funny, I remember in 2017 the voice chat had mic issues all the time but now that works much better. But I suppose everything else got bloated..

[-] pixeltree 15 points 2 days ago

Other voice chat programs were crap, discord was significantly better and more consistent. Simple as. It still has features way ahead of other services. The business side is shitty but it works without anyone needing to know anything with no troubleshooting.

[-] u_u@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

It used to be fast and not full of useless bloat like what you see right now. The usual enshittification.

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