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[-] SphereofWreckening@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Legally, schools and teachers can't force a student to perform the pledge of allegiance. But it's also taught so early in school that most students don't even question it as something to do.

Anectdotally: I was regularly performing the pledge of allegiance (literally said every morning of school) since kindergarten in the US. Also anecdotally: I've literally seen a teacher scold student(s) for not performing the pledge of allegiance. The latter case may not be as common; but the former definitely is common in the US.

[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 4 months ago

Ok, you see how that's not forcing though. A teacher is not the literal country

[-] SphereofWreckening@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're being pedantic. The original point is referring to how indoctrinating the pledge of allegiance can be. If you're being made to do something since you're a very young kid and risk being scolded when you don't do it: you're essentially being forced.

[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Pedantic? It's pedantic to call someone out on a lie? Bulllllshit. I was a kid. There was no issue when I didn't do it.

No, it is not "essentially being forced".

[-] SphereofWreckening@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago
[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 4 months ago

10/10 response. Love it when people just lie and pretend they're right

[-] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

The fact that there was a high profile case might indicate that it’s not as trivially optional as you make it seem.

[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 4 months ago

...the fact that there was a successful case proves that it is in fact optional.

[-] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Not necessarily. It does prove that it legally should be optional.

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