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So just openly anti-leftist and trying to promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform. Real big brain move, doofus.
New Lemmy users, be aware: a lot of the Reddit astroturfers duplicate their efforts here. Lemmy.ml is a leftist and anti-war instance, so it gets a lot of pushback from the astroturfers. Be immediately suspicious of anyone talking shit of Lemmy.ml. It’s mostly bad actors and pro-war people.
Also, Lemmy.world is chock full of the same abusive and sketchy power mods from Reddit.
.ml also has quite a few USSR- and China-fans (apologists for their crimes, going as far as praising Lenin/Stalin/Mao and similar leaders)
And I wouldn't call .ml anti-war, just look at their stance on Ukraine for example (very common: "Russia had to do it because of the evil west")
Calling Lemmy pro-corporate just reads like a joke. The entire point of it is to be independent from companies.
I also wouldn't recommend Lemmy.world simply because it isn't healthy when one instance gets too big.
Never said Lemmy is pro-corporate. The anti-Lemmy.ml posters are.
By “apologists for their crimes,” you’re referring to Lemmy.ml users providing sources dispelling the western hoaxes. Yes, they tend to be better educated and don’t simply repeat western propaganda that’s been debunked.
They're "disproving" "western hoaxes" like the holodomor or uyghur suppression, and praising the USSR and China for being so kind to its inhabitants...
And how is OP trying to "promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform"?
Nobody is denying that the Soviet Famine happened, what they deny is the totally fabricated claim that it was a targeted genocide against Ukrainians.
Nobody is denying that there was/is a police crackdown, what they deny is the totally fabricated claim that it is a targeted genocide against Uyghurs.
tankie
Nazi sympathizer.
Lol .ml is not leftist, they're authoritarians.
.ml site-bans people for their speech even on other instances, now that's a page right out of the reddit power tripping mod handbook when you'd get banned from a sub because you interacted with another sub they didn't like
https://lemmy.world/post/26416571
https://lemmy.world/post/26047186
At least here the modlog is public and I can document the speech that .ml actually removes
I do think .ml is a little too intense, but op is also kinda right about .world imo. Come to dbzero, we've got anarchism and piracy
They're 100% BlueMAGA in my opinion.
Hate to break it to ya, but most people on Reddit are in fact anti-tankie
Also please show me my last post on this because it has been a while lmao
I think "most" people just believe uncritically the things they were taught growing up, that is until something happens that shakes that belief and they either choose to double down or reexamine their previous assumptions. All the new western tankies from the past decade-ish aren't coming from nowhere!
Anti-tankies aren’t getting banned because they’re not supporting leftists and Luigi, genius. They’re allowed to stay on Reddit and post NATO propaganda to their heart’s content.
Tankie!= Leftists, Tankies = authoritarians
For example, I myself 1000% support Luigi and shit on my gov all the time lmao
But I am absolutely anti-tankie, because I do not support authoritarianism regardless of if it's the US or China/Russia
Yes, you’ve attempted to play yourself off as leftist-adjacent to push these topics before. We’ve gotten into back and forths on this multiple times, and every time you’re provided a source that the western talking points you’re pushing are debunked, you repeat the State Dept propaganda verbatim.
I think he supports every socialist revolution, except for every one that succeeds.
Here is a slightly better website with the chapter
Ah yes, your "sources" that are always random websites, blogs and YT videos with 0 legitimacy. And when you do post a primary source it contradicts your point.
Or the time you posted a state department source to support your point and not only did it not, it proved that you only deride against sources as "propaganda" when they're against you, but when you think they're for you it's all hunky dory? Lol
So, it's either support authoritarianism or your not left? What kinda crap is that?
OP’s referring to when I provided a link from the State Dept admitting they had no evidence of a Uyghur genocide. They also don’t accept non-western sources as legitimate, so demand that you provide a western source to disprove western propaganda.
Thanks for putting on a show for the flood of new users. Way to immediately out yourself to incoming leftists.
Lol the state dept link that said they didn't have evidence to meet the strictest definition of genocide, but had evidence of gross serious human rights violations of China
Yes, they tried to double down in the middle of admitting they’ve been engaged in a years long hoax. Which is what all of the western sources will do, and again you do not consider non-western sources legitimate. An intentional self re-enforcing propaganda loop.
What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy
Beautifully said.
Also we're all cool and intelligent and attractive.
Obviously
True, I think .world does over do it a bit, but I think it's more just because they're such a large instance that bad moderation decisions are much more frequent
Unlike .ml, where the mods/admins methods push a clear narrative
Censorship I agree with is still censorship. I'm not a free speech absolutist but I realize that my views are not universal. For example, a Nazi would say I'm pushing the narrative that there is a single human race
Thank god you're documenting the very important and widely censored speech like.. checks links "we were gonna ban you anyway!!".
Phew, this constructive dialogue will not go unheard by the people. Free speech is restored.
my fucking sides
new users, either believe we're alt right astroturfers, or go to the tankie servers, familiarize yourself with their ideas, make your own opinion
I agree. They should look at Lemmy.ml to see what y’all are opposing.
Thank you for your accidental recruitment efforts.
I'm glad we can agree on this.
I was on .ml about 2 years before .world existed and discovered tankies and their ideas
russia amassing troops on the ukrainian border? just exercises, don't believe western propaganda.
Days later, invasion. well no it's actually ukraine invading russia (I shit you not)
oh well ok it's a "military operation", but that's because they're nazis, and bio weapon laboratories to attack russia. Etc,etc
If you have 2 braincells compare tankie and far right talking points, and underline the similarities
Right:
Left:
They didn't say "far right and left", they said "far right and tankie".
(Both images were taken from Hexbear, take from that what you will)
NATO was amassing troops & missile deployments on the border with Ukraine for years. Since Obama.
Please link the upvoted opinions that you claim exist like "Ukraine is the one invading Russia" and agreeing it's "just a military operation".
You won't, because you're making this shit up. And I know you won't because I've challenged far too many people to provide evidence of the wide variety of made up shit and none of them ever have.
it's most likely from ~~yogsaron~~ yogtos or agreeable landscape
I took screenshots, I'll try to dig for them
Edit: so it was Donbas invasion, my bad, it's hard to remember bullshit. if I find enough screenshots maybe I'll make a post to show what c/worldnews on .ml looked like before the reddit migration. Here you see some resistance, but believe me it was mainly tankies, and those absurd posts were upvoted. Sometimes people were trying to inject some sanity, but against the incessant flow of upvoted propaganda, would cash out.
Typical post mocking the absurdity of an invasion (they were a dime a dozen):
tankes gonna tankie
They should check out hexbear too.