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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 167 points 2 days ago

"It's so expensive to have children in Japan that birthrate is further declining."

I swear to God these people couldn't connect the dots with a GPS.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure how true this statement is. I go to Japan every year and the child care infrastructure there is incredible.

The healthcare is icredible - you can literally summon healthcare assistant if youe kid is sick at any point for free to your home

Then there's incredible public transporatiob system, parks, everything is equipped with child support and even culture heavily respects kids so they can do most things independently.

I think they mean expensive time and desire wise and Japanese still work incredible hours many of which seem to actually negatively impact productivity. People don't feel like such investment is worth it and tbh that could easily shift around with cultural changes but Japan is very allergic to those.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is an interesting point. So apparently the problems of having that terrible working culture are solved for (ish) to promote procreation, but it's not helping. Gee, I wonder if possibly creating a society of miserable people and making it easier for them to create more people they presume will be miserable doesn't work because they just don't want to do that.

[-] Lux18@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

But what about housing? If you live in a shoebox with no hope of getting a larger place, it's unlikely that you're gonna have kids.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Housing is pretty good in Japan outside of Tokyo, especially if you don't mind a bit of a train ride

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago

you know...I've been saying this in passing for the last decade and I'm starting to believe it.

the rich continue to rape the planet, spurning global warming on at an alarming rate. it's almost like they don't care about it--or rather they want it to happen.

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

They don't care about it getting worse. because global warming is their answer to every goal they have.

Climate change will:

  • destabilize world governments
  • drastically reduce world population
  • displace millions, forcing them to migrate to safe zones
  • allow them to capitalize on an opportunity to become "gods"

once half if not more of the planets population has died, the planet might start to regulate itself, though it will never be the same again.

I believe they are trying to take over the world and enslave humanity for their own benefit. climate change is just one of the many attacks they are throwing at the world right now.

[-] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We're already slaves. They are just making it more obvious.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

It’s not that there don’t care as much as they don’t believe it will affect them personally. They believe they their wealth will protect them.

[-] Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

I think plenty of them also think it’s far enough in the future that it won’t affect them (spoiler alert: it’s not)

[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago

They don’t care about it getting worse. because global warming is their answer to every goal they have.

It's the classic "we don't care if the valley floods, we live on the hill" mentality. They think that if/when the world devolves into chaos that they'll be safe because they're well off.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

precisely, they want the valley to flood because the fields will be fertile and there will be less mouths to feed while they hold all the power.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

Except climate change is a flood that won't go away for 10,000 years. There is no 'after' for the rich to benefit from.

[-] tankfox@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

The problem with conspiracy theories is that they're trying to assign a single point of blame to a complete systemic failure. The feeling is that if we can simply find out who is doing this and boil it down to one person or one group we can then simply attack that group and solve all our problems. That's exactly the ox that fascism has yolked on its ride to power in every single generation.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

countries have mostly abandoned climate action change,

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Elysium but in New Zealand

[-] turnip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

It was the government doing window guidance that caused their mess, how do you blame the people who made successful companies that gave Japan its first world living standard?

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I blame the people for ignoring their responsibility towards humanity. just because you achieved success does not mean you get to stifle the progress of the world.

as the quote goes, "A rising tide lifts all ships." when one person installs a levy and only allows their friends access, progress ends and the town(world) will die.

success is not greed, and these people are greed.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

pretty much the same in korea, i think korea is slightly worst off, china is beginning to see its effects too, they already trying to change that by "encouraging more sex", but they arnt solving the underlying issue, which is the one-child policy that devastated the female to male ratio and HCOL. and they also have harsh work ethic.

[-] Lux18@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

slightly worst off

worse* off

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

My first two kids were born in Japan, and they were actually pretty cheap. The local city gives you some money (a few thousand) when your child is born, and day care was good and super cheap, like $10 per day because it was subsidized.

It really wasn't very expensive.

[-] Cistello@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Well it does get a lot more expensive when almost everybody wants to live in the same tiny square of the country Tokyo's population will decline in 2035 according to some estimates

[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

With Japan, they only have so much inhabitable land anyway. It's a mountainous island where all viable land is already pretty much taken.

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