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Framework’s first desktop is a strange—but unique—mini ITX gaming PC (arstechnica.com)
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[-] grue@lemmy.world 151 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"To enable the massive 256GB/s memory bandwidth that Ryzen AI Max delivers, the LPDDR5x is soldered," writes Framework CEO Nirav Patel in a post about today's announcements. "We spent months working with AMD to explore ways around this but ultimately determined that it wasn’t technically feasible to land modular memory at high throughput with the 256-bit memory bus. Because the memory is non-upgradeable, we’re being deliberate in making memory pricing more reasonable than you might find with other brands."

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Edit: to be clear, I was only trying to point out that "we’re being deliberate in making memory pricing more reasonable than you might find with other brands" is clearly targeting the Mac Mini, because Apple likes to price-gouge on RAM upgrades. ("Unamused face looking at Apple," get it? Maybe I emoji'd wrong.) My comment is not meant to be an opinion about the soldered RAM.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 5 months ago

Yeah hugely disappointed by this tbh. They should have made a gaming capable steam machine in cooperation with valve instead :)

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Yeah.

But that's AMD's fault, as they gimped the GPU so much on the lower end. There should be a "cheap" 8-core, 1-CCD part with close to the full 40 CUs... But there is not.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

They still could; this seems aimed at the AI/ML research space TBH

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Well, more specifically: why didn’t they try to go for LPCAMM?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

From what I understand, they did try, but AMD couldn't get it to work because of signal integrity issues.

[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Because you’d get like half the memory bandwidth to a product where performance is most likely bandwidth limited. Signal integrity is a bitch.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I thought LPCAMM was designed specifically to address the bandwidth and connectivity issues that crop up around high-bandwidth + low-voltage RAM?

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