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Twenty-one staffers from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) resigned, citing ethical concerns over dismantling public services and compromising sensitive data.

Formerly part of the U.S. Digital Service, they criticized Musk and Trump’s overhaul, which included layoffs and politically charged interviews.

Their letter warned that removing skilled technologists endangers essential services like Social Security and veterans’ benefits.

The resignations add to growing concerns over Musk’s aggressive federal cuts, amplified by his recent CPAC speech where he symbolically wielded a chainsaw against "bureaucracy."

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[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 153 points 1 week ago

I am always confused why they don't just sabotage the efforts? Like it would be so easy and they definitely aren't paying attention...

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 135 points 1 week ago

Different people are able to take on different levels of risk.

Just because these people resigned doesn’t mean that some other people aren’t staying in for the purposes of being subversive, and you shouldn’t ever hear about the latter.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago

Sabatoge can carry extremely harsh legal penalties, particularly if it has any type of lasting impact. Beyond that, just phoning it in and doing a bad job can slow things down but doesn't actually stop it. If you're then let go it's on their pace, it looks worse for you and it's less noticeable.

A mass resignation can be the only thing some people can do. It sends a message, it gets noticed outside the organization, and it lets objective news reporting share your motivation, which would normally fall under opinion.
It also leaves a big gap in the organization that isn't getting anything done.

[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

but.. he who saves his country can not break the law. right??!

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Guys, dumping tea in the harbor is illegal, just pay your taxes to the crown. It's just a king, everyone has one

[-] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

The American revolutionary war was difficult enough with an entire ocean separating us from a king. Now the self appointed king is here.

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can't persecute you for sabotage if it just happens to coincide with proper office protocol.

Simple Sabotage Field Manual

[-] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Not if you make an Italian strike. You are following every single step of the process, taking the time needed, all by the book. And when the higher rank says something then everyone working resigns all at once.

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Lol getting fired doesn't look bad. It doesn't look like anything because you aren't legally required to tell a future employer if you were fired, and they can't ask the previous employer

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

It's public information if a government employee is terminated, and there's nothing stopping them from reaching out to the previous employer.

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

State laws determine exactly what a potential employer can ask, and divulge

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yes and no one ever violates those

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

And do you think that that prevents them from disclosing that they terminated an employee for unprofessional conduct or unsatisfactory job performance?

Further, for government employees certain details about their jobs are simply considered matters of public record. It's not something they divulge, it was simply never private in the first place.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure any future employee that saw you were fired after Trump took power (because you didn't express loyalty to a fascist) would see this as a good thing.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Mostly the risk of jail, probably.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

One aspect is that working in that kind of system destroys your mental health. Having to play games to hide the good things, trying to mitigate the bad things. It’s pressure.

My state has been basically been doing Project 2025 for the past five years. I had a friend in an important position in a fascist overtaken state organization who held on for a long time, fighting the good fight - but it drains. She fought her fucking hardest, but a human being can only fight for so long.

[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The kurds have been fighting a war from the desert for decades, but Americans get whipped by paperwork and call it a day

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Well, we can’t shoot our fascists yet. It would probably be pretty helpful with the mental health part.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

At the very least it'd be cathartic, plus humans are wired for killing more than paperwork. See problem smash problem is a lot more immediate than slow boring paperwork

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

plus humans are wired for killing more than paperwork

A common misconception, and anti-scientific one at that, often postulated by white supremacists that point at chimps in the jungle and say "That's where our nature/culture comes from." Humans are social creatures, we suck at speed/strength/endurance/lethality compared to most animals on earth because we're less hardwired for violence than we are for social abilities. Yes, while our fists are shaped to maximize damage to human faces, and human faces are shaped to minimize damage from human fists, that's a far less unique human attribute than our brains. That's why you don't see male chimps writing poetry and songs to court a female chimp that builds orbital satellites while doing a physics PhD.

Humans beings are far and beyond more wired than anything else to sit around a fire and solve problems with eachother through abstract reasoning while sharing food. That and husband/wife swapping (i'm speaking strictly from anthropological data that made my own preconceived biases go "huh?")

[-] Ragnor@feddit.dk 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Actually, our endurance is one of the best in nature. Most animals would overheat if forced to keep up with us over long distances. Here is a source confirming it.

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Okay then add 'sweating' to the list of human traits more engrained than violence.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

We actually shot him once. But he survived

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I feel like there will be a "How To Count To 10 In American" video coming out in the next 4-8 years.

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