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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Grumpygeek@lemm.ee to c/europe@feddit.org

Just go the vote, and make sure your family and friends go to give their votes.

I'm not local, I cannot vote over here, but had seen multiple times in modern times voter suppression has been a big deal, it's easier to make you not to bother to vote than change your mind who to vote.

I had worked brexit UK, where people voted it due they weren't happy about the PM. As it was good time to vote against him. Without thinking what brexit actually was. So use your voice by voting. What do you wish the future of country will be in this new era.

I know German has issues, as every Europe union contries. If the problems are easy to solve they would have been solved already, don't belive one tag line promises.

I'm just wanna say, as a fellow user. Just go to vote.

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[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I would, but it's 16 hours early.

Do I have any hope for a progressive government? Do I have hope that anyone but Merz becomes chancellor?

No, too many old men in this country for that.

But damn it, I have 1 vote to cast and cast it I will, giving it 100% to a party I tolerate. Not voting is voting for the end result, and the AFD doesn't deserve 1% of my vote, let alone what percentage they end up at.

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 34 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Warning: Bad design, but instead of arguing over the top part, which definitely has some considerations that make it a bit more complicated, my main concern is the bottom part.

It's not enough that my vote is thrown away if I don't vote, but put in a blender with all the other non-voters and then distributed in part to the very parties I do not like.

[-] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 4 points 20 hours ago

Look at last parliamentary election in CZ.

By increasing attendance by few percent we got rid of communist party which was in parliament from 1945...

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

I was arguing to non-voters who adopted a "my single vote doesn't matter" perspective. A single vote in a country is never a few percent.

If people already know and trust that their vote can add up with others to a few percent here or there, they would already go and vote in our system I feel.

[-] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago

When I think about it it may had exactly opposite effect, so much parties stayed under the 5% threshold that 1 000 000 votes didn't mattered.

Yes you read it right 1/10 of our country's votes fell through without making any difference. (The ratio is probably worse because not everyone is eligible to vote).

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

well, except if someone votes for a party that gets less than 5%. it's a bit similar with the US elections, when democrats would have won, if ppl didn't vote 3rd party for unrealistic reasons.

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, but throwing out some splinter groups to make a stable government possible is necessary after all, we remember Weimar - though we should not have that threshold at 18 seats by percentage or 3 direct mandates.

On the other hand, I disagree on blaming the democrat loss on third party voters. Third party votes stayed roughly the same compared to 2020 (+0.5 million, not all towards left), while 6 million democrat votes were lost. Democrats simply did not get enough people to the booths with their campaign.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 21 hours ago

You can vote early...

[-] Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 4 points 23 hours ago
[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Unless I vote for a winning independent local candidate, then my second vote is annulled.

But this isn't about the exact mechanism of German elections. I say colloquially I have 1 vote to cast/2 crosses to set.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Other way around, if an independent wins then second votes are annulled. If a party candidate wins they're put on the top of the list of people from that party who'll get into parliament when percentages are turned into seats.

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