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Israel drops leaflets threatening Gazans to 'leave or die'
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The deafening silence from all the people who were so noisy about gEnOcIdE in October 2024.
Right here bub. Genocide Joe laid the groundwork for this.
Clearly you haven't read the numerous comments sections where other people have left your exact same comment.
The real deafening silence is the democrats on Electoral reform. Don't they support democracy? Then why don't they support changing how we vote so people can be represented by their options in the voting booth?
Are you reading all the comments? Nobody is being silent about it
Nobody is silent about this what the fuck are you even talking about?
The amount I heard the word "genocide" was much higher in October 2024.
Well, you were supporting it back then. Now that you've come around to opposing genocide, you're no longer getting pushback.
Hey, how about instead of chastising people for telling biden/kamala they needed to pivot here you look at the DNC that took a campaign strategy of "Well, let's ignore a huge issue because we don't want to lose donor money".
Trump won by unabashedly appealing to his base. Biden/Kamala lost because they ignored their base and chased after Trump's base instead.
Way to miss the point.
What point? That trump allowed the same genocide that biden did? That functionally trump and biden had the same policy for gaza?
Tell me, how would Biden or Kamala have responded to this news? Whispering to someone "Wow, netty sure is an asshole"? Would they have actually even threatened to cut aid? What are current democrats in congress saying about this? Has any non-progressive democrat condemned this?
Yeah, that's the point. One that you are missing. The party didn't listen to it's base and lost an election because of it. Gaza is just as fucked as it would have been under either presidency.
I think many people here are missing the real point underneath all of this. All the Americans who are still so delusional they believe democracy in the usa is functioning are the ones blaming voters who’s conscious wont allow them to vote for an obvious controlled opposition party. Here is the reality. Neo liberal democracy is a farce and always has been. You can not have true democracy without economic democracy. What you actually have in that case is class dictatorship.
We have a ratcheting political system. The right moves in and takes power and leverages everything as far right as they can get away with as quickly as possible, meanwhile the center right which masquerades as a “left party” with their milquetoast virtue signaling of waving pride flags and blm signaling while still supporting the main factor that allows racist ideology to flourish within policing agencies, global drug prohibition and the militarized police and surveillance state that has risen from it, while in power they make every excuse not to move the dial to the left and thus the pawl of the ratchet locks and only allows rightward movement.
The 14 traits of fascism are present in both parties. Albeit more prominently so in the maga right but its still there in the center right democrat party. Both sides are owned by the same exact wall street military and prison industry profiteers this is an undisputable fact. The only one of the 14 traits they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections however there is more than enough evidence to say that the us presidential election is rigged and has been since reagan and maybe even since kenedy considering the deal that was made with the mafia to get JFK in the white house.
Now we have elon musk buying trumps election in broad daylight and star link satellite systems were connected to tabulation machines in multiple precincts but lets ignore the cybersecurity experts who have claimed that there is legitimate evidence the 2024 election was stolen. The only half truth trump may ever have told is that the 2020 election was stolen but he didn't complain when it was rigged in his favor in 2016 because he doesn't give a fuck about election integrity so long as he benefits from it.
It is obvious to anyone paying attention that nothing in the US will change without a revolution. The democrats fight leftward movement at every opportunity. They disenfranchised sanders voters in 2 primaries and forced tired status quo bullshit onto us and blamed us for the dnc leaks sinking Clinton and then called it Russian propaganda. This all goes back to the thirties and the wall street putsch business plot and then nixon, then Reagan killing the fairness in reporting doctrine and bush also ensuring that was not codified into law. Now we have right wing fascist apologia rags masquerading as true unbiased journalism. 90% of the media we consume all owned by 6 major corporations all circularly owned by blackrock, vangaurd state street and blackstone. Democracy in the usa is dead. If you think it’s still functioning you are naive.
Okay, I'll spell it out then.
Before the election, there were all sorts of people crowing about the one genocide going on that they could use to get their fascist elected, and now that that very fascist is accelerating that very genocide - fucking crickets.
Those pre-election gEnOcIdE people were being disingenous then, as is evidenced by the deafening silence now.
You are literally talking to one. And frankly, you are covering your eyes because you are uncomfortable with the fact that they are STILL protesting the genocide.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/thousands-across-the-u-s-protest-trump-policies
But go ahead and try to act like they aren't being consistent. Cling to your conspiracy theories rather than recognizing the party needs to change to be responsive to it's voters.
You're the one talking about Democrats, not me.
How much effort have you put in to voicing your concerns about the Uighurs, Sudanese, Congolese? Or is it just this genocide you don't like?
The US wasn't sending weapons to support those genocides for you.
First, yes, I've complained about those.
Second, We aren't funding any of those genocides as a matter of US policy.
Tell me what the US is supposed to do short of invading China, Sudan, or the Congo? The best you could say is more tariffs against china for the Uighurs. For the others we have basically no leverage beyond maybe USAID.
And who's trying to shut that down? Biden's out, Harris lost. Who's in charge of all three branches of the US federal government now, and what are they doing to resolve this one genocide?
Nice pivot. I see you really don't want to stay on the subject of Israel because it was a major problem with the DNC.
Just because I'm identifying a problem with the DNC doesn't mean that I didn't vote for them or that I support Trump. Kamala would have been better than Trump as a president, no doubt. However, She and Biden both had horseshit positions on Israel and actively worked to silence dissent on the subject. It doesn't matter that the RNC is cheering to nuke the middle east, their base loves that rhetoric.
You must not have read the entirety of my short comment, which ended with
But yeah, keep bitching about Democrats while the fascists burn the world down.
Yes, I will keep complaining because I want Democrats to win. They can't win elections by ignoring the base.
Your "never call out Democrats" is exactly the problem with the party. It's what has led them to losing all three branches. The reason Republicans won is because they pointed out the problems with the US, said "fascism will fix everything", and they are delivering.
FFS, it isn't even that Biden didn't do a lot of good (outside of Israel and the border). However, he and the party ran from the positive actions they took. They did that for fear that they'd scare away a "moderate" Republican. Their messaging was "at least we aren't them" and that's what lost the election. It's what lost the Hillary election in 16.
So yes, I blame Biden, Harris, and the DNC for losing a winnable election to a fascist. I can't blame those that stayed home or voted 3rd party, how can I blame someone that couldn't stomach the choice between two active participators in a genocide? It was a choice between Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy and you are saying "well, Ted's not quite as cruel when he murders people".
Hey fuck you. You are a piece of shit for thinking Ukrainians are worth less than Palestinians. YOU caused this Trump bullshit so now you get to stfu and take your blame. Asshole.
Hey asshole, when did I ever say that? When have I ever supported Trump or told someone to vote for him or third party?
Fuck you for assuming my political positions and fuck you for thinking Palestinians don't matter. And fuck you because I didn't fucking run for office. I wasn't the one that ran Kamala's dog shit campaign. Maybe if you are fucking mad you should be giving mad at the fucking DNC, you know the people that lost to fascists and Putin lovers, for not running on policy or positions and instead ran a campaign that ended with Biden fucking welcoming Trump into the Whitehouse.
Fuck you asshole for trying to fucking chastise someone that fucking voted for fucking Kamala. If we can't fucking analyze the fucking mistakes of the fucking DNC then we are fucking going to see them lose again and fucking again.
I fucking blame idiots like you who cry like a baby when someone fucking points out the flaws of their team. You fucking authoritarian idiot. Democrats aren't fucking holy and pure. So learn and demand that they be fucking better.
Do you actually support how Democrats are currently acting? Do you realize the party is currently fucking talking about how they need to fucking work with their partners across the isle? That's why, you fucking moron, they are losing. Not because I fucking told them to stop giving funding and protecting a literal genocidal maniac.
Hi, I'm still here to point out biden was supplying israel with billions in support as they committed genocide all the way until JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. How's that for deafening silence?
By the way, think about what impression you give off when you spongebob text the word genocide. If it helps, try doing that with The Holocaust and think about how that looks.
Hi, I'm here to point out that those arms sales were designated by many Congresses going back decades, and the deals for them were not reversible by a presidential edict, except for arms that were not for "defensive purposes," which Biden was able to and did put a hold on ... Except that House Republicans reversed that.
Biden could've vetoed the multiple aid bills that passed his desk with arms shipments to israel after oct 7th and after it became clear Israel was using this as an excuse to obliterate gaza.
He could've also enforced the leahy laws which prohibit arms shipments to countries that are suspected of using them for human rights abuses.
He didn't do either because he is a zionist who is fine with the genocide of Palestinians.
"That's the way we've always done it" is a shit excuse for genocide. But any excuse will do for the genocidal.
The Leahy law is RIGHT THERE.
Why would Biden bypass congress for arms sales that were "designated by many Congresses"?: https://apnews.com/article/us-israel-gaza-arms-hamas-bypass-congress-1dc77f20aac4a797df6a2338b677da4f
israel's campaign of genocide that it has been waging for over a year (and more accurately, since its founding) is not defensive. Biden even claimed that he'd set a red line, but then he'd pretend nothing happened when israel crossed them: https://www.npr.org/2024/05/29/nx-s1-4983786/where-is-the-biden-administrations-red-line-when-it-comes-palestinian-deaths-in-gaza
Do you think 2,000-pound bombs are used for defensive purposes?: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/
Oh, I see what you mean in that article:
Wow, pausing a single shipment when israel already had more than enough to level all of Palestine. That really made a difference!
Sure is better now, huh.
Sure would be better if Biden had stopped supporting a genocide and listened to their base. Maybe they would have been able to stop Trump winning, at least. So good job on you for wanting more of what makes the DNC lose to Trump.
The Russian checks stopped coming, so they moved on to other things now
Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian spy
Still here, Joe Biden started the genocide, trump looks like he's going to finish it.
Not sure if the liberals are much louder in condemning this, judging by the comments here they seem to just want to say "I told you so"
EDIT: I try show some brevity once instead of writing paragraphs and get told I don't know my history, so here's some paragraphs.
Yes Israel has been carrying out a process of slow ethnic cleansing for decades. Biden while in congress along with all the other dems repeatedly backed arms sales to this apartheid state knowing it was going to kill Palestinians. The violence ramped up in 2023 as Israeli settlers committed pogroms against Palestinians, which is part of the reason hamas did oct 7th. During this time Biden did nothing to reign in the Israelis, and instead tried to throw it under the rug to get a deal with the Saudis to normalize relations. Then Oct 7th happened and Israel went on a full onslaught against Gaza, and to a lesser extent the west bank and Lebanon. Biden again did nothing to stop this and continued to give military aid and diplomatic support to Israel. By the end of his administration Gaza was uninhabitable. Now trump seems primed to allow Israel to finish what it started and complete the ethnic cleansing.
Lol for fuck sake... Are you for real??? Biden started the genocide? You fucking sure about that?
What a joke. Most of these people never even knew of the existence of Palestine prior to 2024. Read a fucking book
Ffs "this phase of the genocide" happy, point still stands, Biden enabled Israel to bomb Gaza into obliteration and trumps finishing the job and all Liberals have to say is "i told you so"
I know Israel has been carrying out a slow genocide for the past couple decades but they haven't ramped up to this level since the Nakba. If you think this is the same as anything pre October 7th, post 73 you need to look at the pictures coming out of gaza.
Uh yeah Biden didn't start "this phase of the genocide" either.
lol they are trying hard to blame Palestinian for trump to the point they are willing to say Biden fid nothing wrong. Even thought they vetoed all humanitarian resolution at the UN. Like for fuck sake just search google how Biden supported the genocide.
Did I say Biden did nothing wrong?
Here's a challenge: try to discuss this topic without resorting to straw men. In my experience, on this site, every single discussion about this topic has ended up this way.
"Biden supported the genocide" is a factual statement that i agree with.
"Biden started the genocide" is fucking stupid hyperbolic partisan cheerleading.
And trumps not going to finish it, it was a play on words for brevity, see the edit. Both of the actions were/will be done by Israel with the support and weapons of the u.s.
No one seems to be calling out the trump line as hyperbolic partisan cheerleading. Or any of the other comments on here saying trump is committing genocide.
Stunning lack of knowledge of history. Bravo. This is why no one should take you guys seriously. You're useful tools for Russian propaganda.
Russian propaganda, wtf. Newsflash Russia has good relations with Israel, not as subservient as the u.s., but they aren't really complaining about the genocide. I guess you just think that anything that's against the democrats is Russian propaganda, in which case I'd say your a good tool for democrat propaganda.
Made an edit since you people can't seem to take a short reply but I'll copy it here:
I try show some brevity once instead of writing paragraphs and get told I don't know my history, so here's some paragraphs.
Yes Israel has been carrying out a process of slow ethnic cleansing for decades. Biden while in congress along with all the other dems repeatedly backed arms sales to this apartheid state knowing it was going to kill Palestinians. The violence ramped up in 2023 as Israeli settlers committed pogroms against Palestinians, which is part of the reason hamas did oct 7th. During this time Biden did nothing to reign in the Israelis, and instead tried to throw it under the rug to get a deal with the Saudis to normalize relations. Then Oct 7th happened and Israel went on a full onslaught against Gaza, and to a lesser extent the west bank and Lebanon. Biden again did nothing to stop this and continued to give military aid and diplomatic support to Israel. By the end of his administration Gaza was uninhabitable. Now trump seems primed to allow Israel to finish what it started and complete the ethnic cleansing.