Zelensky didn't "start" the war, he provoked it (thegrayzone.substack.com)

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Trump's heresy was not literally true, but it was grounded in a fundamental truth that has been denied to Americans so the national security state could bilk them for billions.

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[-] Kualk@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago

Ukraine openly stated they want nukes and nato membership.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And Russia quickly demonstrated why Ukraine was right to want such things.

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

TIL defending yourself from the evil empire (Amerikkka) is bad.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Explain to me how Ukraine wanting to join an alliance that includes the US is anyone trying to defend themselves from the US.

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

The US couped Ukraine's government, installed a puppet regime, continuously built up a military presence right next to Russia's least defensible point (going so far as to have massive wargames in Ukraine), and violated all of the agreements that were meant to deescalate the situation. The alliance in question has only ever been used to invade and demolish countries that dare not kiss the burger reich's ring despite that alliance ostensibly being for defense against foreign aggression.

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

How would the US react if Mexico wanted nukes from Russia?

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

like it did with cuba

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Given that the US has already been telegraphing that they want to invade Mexico I would not blame Mexico for looking at all available options to defend themselves.