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Donald Trump death penalty order sparks huge Luigi Mangione donation
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This is so ridiculous. He killed a dude. That's worthy of the death penalty (not in Texas)!? People have done worse to many people, or children, or... and not been sentenced to death.
Even if you're 100% against murder in all circumstances and feel he should be locked up forever, you have to see this is just CEO's exercising their outsized influence to discourage further punishment of the 1% and corporate leaders that prey on Americans...
Trump himself and all of his rich friends on Epstein's island have done way worse than Luigi. At least I consider the systematic rape of children and human trafficking worse than killing a mass murderer.
The more that Trump floods the zone with bullshit, the more likely the defense can convince a judge that a fair trial is impossible.
They're not even going to pretend that people are equal. The Donvict, President Musk, and the MAGAstappo deeply believe that rich white men are worth more than anyone who isn't one of them, and will use the full force of the law as they interpret it to protect their interests.
Just you wait. They're going to push for laws specifically protecting what they'll call "High Value Citizens" or something to that effect. Give it time.
It's called VIP and the concept isn't new.
"VIP" getting you a special booth at a restaurant or preferential treatment at a business is one thing.
"VIP" giving you special legal protections and immunity to prosecution is another. As bad as "VIP" bias is now, just wait until it's actually codified into law and you'll see why "Second class citizen" is such a ubiquitous term for the systematically oppressed.
I'm sure the SCROTUS will find some reason to invalidate the Constitutional forbidding of a nobility soon. Like they ignored the Constitutional bar to holding office by participants in an insurrection.
Not codified?
Some opportunities are codified to only VIPs - e.g. you can't invest in a hedge fund legally unless you have certain net worth.
Punishments? If a punishment for a crime is monetary (like a fine), it's an absolute, not percentage based, so wealthy and not people are affected very differently by it.
What else do you want? Literal human hunting license?
So you are saying that VIP has a specific legal definition?
I see this as "if I'm going to get the death penalty anyway, might as well take out as many of them as I can."
Murder is legal in self-defense or to save the live of another.
That's how you need to look at this.
Self-defense and defending another person are both defenses against a murder charge. Neither of those acts is in itself murder. Killing another person is homicide. For it to be murder, additional factors have to be considered.
I understand what you're getting at but self-defense requires an imminent risk of physical harm.
You can't self-defense a bank employee who might harm you by declining your loan application.
You can't self-defense your alcoholic neighbor because they might drive drunk later and kill someone.
Most legal systems would not justify lethal force to stop murder by omission unless the omission creates an immediate life-threatening situation and there is no other reasonable alternative.
We can even pinpoint the exact moment it becomes life-threatening without a reasonable alternative; When these spawns of the devil have a momentary self-reflective thought while moving their pencil to the checkbox to deny a valid healthcare claim. In that moment they either help their fellow human, or commit murder.
It's not murder if it's done in self-defense or to save the life of some other innocent person. It's justifiable homicide.
Depends on what country you live in. In Canada that is not a valid reason to kill.
I call bullshit on that. Post the law that makes it legal.
Of which country?
I generalized the law of most civilized countries.
Look up murder by omission or something.
Or killing OJ
People kill people in war and they don't go to jail. Luigi fought for us in the war against abusive healthcare monopoly prices. He is a hero and should be freed.
His is a wonderful use case for jury nullification. Just remember never to use that term during deliberations. Just vote not guilty, and if pressed, say that the evidence doesn't support the charge. And say nothing more. Jurors are not obliged to explain their reasoning to the judge or to other jurors.
This actually isn't enough, right? It just results in a hung jury, and the prosecution gets another bite at the apple. You need to actively convince your fellow jurors to render a not-guilty verdict.