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At the current rate of horrible fiery deaths, FuelArc projects the Cybertruck will have 14.52 fatalities per 100,000 units — far eclipsing the Pinto's 0.85. (In absolute terms, FuelArc found, 27 Pinto drivers died in fires, while five Cybertruck drivers have suffered the same fate, at least so far.)

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 201 points 2 days ago

I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to ~~extract~~, er create.

He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Him and his libertarian friends fuck up left and right. Crashing startups and just getting more money for another. Constant recalls. Blowing up rockets until it works.

Yet they hold the government to a standard of being perfect and high performing with no room for failure. NASA can’t be blowing up rockets. As soon as they do the world comes down on them.

And Trump is the biggest fuckup of all these guys.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I see you don’t understand testing things before they are safe for humans to be inside of. So by this logic, you are saying “blowing up rockets until it works” is also saying “crash testing cars is stupid.”

If NASA was funded properly, we may not be leaning on one private company, whose owner is a nazi, to be paving our way forward for daily space activities. Can’t say things won’t blow up during testing, but at least it won’t be headed by that guy.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

The issue isn't the way of testing, but the two standards. If Musk blows up rockets in testing it's a genius move with rapid iteration. If NASA does this it's irresponsible handling of tax payer's money on risky endeavors.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I stand by my comment. Things break, shit happens, this is why we test them.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Blowing up rockets until it works is a far better approach than trying to get everything to work on the first try and ending up with a hugely overpriced white elephant.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago

You can't use "literally" and "paraphrasing" like that.

[-] flyingjake@lemmy.one 23 points 2 days ago

Thank you, my pedantic friend. (I say this because I'm often the one making the comment and getting the eyerolls)

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Normally I don't point it out. But this one was just too much.

[-] MechanicalJester@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

You just literally said (interpretive paraphrasing), "I like big butts and I cannot lie"

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're/they're just paraphrasing Chaucer

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

oh god that quote. he's so lame and fucking stupid.

I'm sure corner cutting is a concern but also he's so insecure he probably read things about Steve Jobs or something, and tried to ape him. I remember something about Jobs supposedly telling employees to reduce steps in some processes or whatever. this idiot doesn't understand anything so he thinks asking for fewer bolts is the same thing.

why can't we do it in two? cause that's how you secure things you fucking dumbass. your proud fascination for "fewer bolts" is why your hypercuck tried to kill a driver.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Also, normally the cost savings should go to the client, not into some billionaires bank account.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

An MVP should not be a beta version, but fully functional and bug-free. The idea is to reduce scope to not necessarily even release it (though that's possible) but to have a solid foundation onto which to duct-tape bells and whistles.

The MVP of a car doesn't have heated seats, heck the seats might not even be adjustable without a wrench, but it's absolutely going to drive and drive well and be crash-safe. Because if it doesn't it's nowhere close to being a viable car, go back and fix that before spending time on those seats.

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

There's nothing inherently wrong with a simplification mindset. Automotive manufacturers certainly do like to overcomplicate things. Unfortunately people like him only care about costs and not quality.

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