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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

The problem with transit is more about how cities are designed, zoned, and built. If we built cities for people instead of cars the vast majority of people in a city would likely have faster commutes on transit than driving a private vehicle.

Other things can help with this as well such as transit signal priority.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's a 7 minute drive, i practically live in the same suburb. I also work evening shift. Are you going to put on a bus to everywhere for those 250 people who finish work at 230am? Must all of us work and live next door? I try to live as close as possible but you cant ask everyone to do that. A job change shouldnt mean you are required to move house. Its just not feasible for a city of millions to move every time they change jobs. And its not feasible to put on a bus service so me and a couple of others can get home at 230am.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

You're right, it isn't feasible to always use a bus, thats why walking, cycling, trams, and light rail should also be used. The biggest problem is density. Low density makes it very difficult to effeciently service, yet many north american zoning and building codes make it very difficult to build any housing that isn't detached single family homes with minimum parking standards and set backs.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

She's afraid to be out alone at night. Biking infra isn't going to change her mind.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Oh cool we just need to tear down and rebuild the cities.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

You say that as if we didn't already do it once before, when we demolished perfectly-good walkable downtowns to pave over them for car parking.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Yeah but then it was actually politically viable.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 14 hours ago

You're a voter. You get to help decide what's politically viable. Giving up makes no sense.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I’ve been voting for 25 years and not once have I felt any damn influence

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 13 hours ago

It's not just your votes, it's also your actions and your words. For example, when you say green transport policy will never happen, you're making it less likely, and undoing your votes.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I don’t disagree that my comments on a backwater social media site for nerds are more influential than my vote.

Still never gonna happen.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

Thats pretty much exactly what we did to accommodate cars with their highways and parking lots in the first place. But its really less about tearing down and more about building up instead of out. They already tore down the cities to pave more lanes and make more parking.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

So assuming we have as much buy in from government at all levels as we did for highways and parking lots we might have walkable cities in 50 years.

And that’s a huge assumption.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

It is a huge problem cause we had great functional cities with lots of housing and most had trams on every majory roadway. We made huge mistakes destroying multi story buildings to pave surface level parking lots. This problem was decades in the making and will take decades to build out of, but thats what we'll have to do if we want to fix it. There is no magic undo button.

Things cities can do to start improving today inckude upzone residential neighbourhoods to make midrise multi units possible to build. Allows mixed use zoning where residential moxes more with light comercial and restaurants. Restrict new developments on the edges of the city to meet minimum density requirements and transit access standards. Update fire/building codes to make single staircase buildings safe and viable. Do a street assement when repaving roads to determine if dedicated transit, cycling, or pedestrian lanes should replace some car lanes.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Anything that takes decades to do is no longer possible in America. At best we get four years of progress and then four to eight years of stagnation, if not actual regression.

Saying things like “oh just do this” ignores the complete lack of political will to do this at every level from the voters to the presidency.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Nearly everything i mentioned can be done at a municipal level which tends to have less extreme shifts than federal politics. A good city council could commit to improving their city's situation. Often once this gets started, people like it. For example, people loved the pedestrianized streets some cities had during covid. I do understand your point though, the premier of my province made it illegal for municipalities to build bike lanes (which imo is way too much provincial over reach into muncipal planning).

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