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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Okay so this may come across as crazy, but myself and many other people didn't want to vote for a candidate that supported ethnic cleansing, even if they were on "our team".

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

And given the shitty system we have, any vote, or non-vote, that wasn't for Kamala was a vote for trump (by way of it being one less vote he needed to win). Can't walk into a chess tournament and start putting checkers on the board just because you don't like chess...gotta change the game first or you just lose and get kicked out.

[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

My crazy idea here is maybe the DNC should run candidates people actually like. There's no way in hell if they ran a primary Kamala would have won the nomination given how unpopular she was as VP.

Find me one Kamala voter as excited for her candidacy as the average Trump voter was for him, and I'll find you a dozen who were only supporting her because whe wasn't the other guy. Same story with the Biden campaign in 2020 and Clinton before that.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They could have run a dead fish didnt matter for this election. "Boohoo, don't like candidate" isnt a valid excuse this time. Sry, it's the weakest argument outside "oUr PRoTEsT voTe DiDnT matatTer" (mathematically true I'd you ignore any that may have been swayed by their constant pushing of a single issue instead of of everything at risk).

[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

What? Running a candidate people like is probably the most important thing in an election. And the DNC knew from polling that she was unpopular as a VP. Seriously what on earth are you talking about that having a candidate people like doesn't matter.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I get that; I do. But there was no better alternative. I’m all about changing our electoral system, but at the time of an election is not the time to do it. How is Trump better than Joe of Kamala?

[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

He's not, don't get me wrong. But at the end of the day, Kamala Harris still supported genocide. If I voted for her, I'd have been voting for this fundamentally evil policy. Frankly, I'm not interested in doing that, and I stand by that.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

By not voting for her, you enabled even worse for Gaza AND the dismantling of the US government and protections for many folks like transgender people and women. Great work.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A vote for Kamala is a vote for Kamala.

Any other vote or not voting is one less vote trump needs, and is a vote for trump. (Statistically it would have been a blue votes because they tend to be people that don't align with conservative views that are pro Palestine)

They will never understand that.

Both are bad on Gaza, so it is irrelevant. One could be talked to and has some sense of empathy and could potentially be swayed, the other is going to destroy Gaza without remorse, ruin lise for the most vulnerable Americans, and make sure the US is a a part of the new Axis powers on the wrong side of the global power struggle. These people chose the second option.

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