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No, we're "chortling" about both. You just wont see people discussing US censorship in a thread about CCP censorship, unless some asshat brings up a what-aboutism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
If the crux of your argument is based on an ethical or moral judgement you open yourself to whataboutisms. Otherwise any time any one brings up hypocritical behavior it would be a fallacy.
On the other hand, if you simply observe a fact, like this censorship, people who bring up a whataboutism are actually engaging in strawmanning.
Tl;Dr whataboutisms are a disputed fallacy and it quite frankly probably depends on context and motivation for whether it counts
My personal guideline is when it's being used as a defense or excuse instead of a refutation of a claim (explicit or implicit) of moral or ethical superiority.
The fuck are you going on about? All I'm saying is is that the only reason you might hear about [topic x] in a thread about [topic y] is people deflecting.
Want to complain about American censorship? Make a new post. Plenty of things to complain about now. You'll see plenty of the same people,
The absolute state of reading comprehension in this country is shameful.
Right back at you. You wrote a whole essay because you misinterpreted my issue with people bringing up off topics.
Bro, it's five sentences. You're just lazy.
Nothing lazy about not wanting to debate a deflection or other fallacy. It keeps debates on-track.
Dumbass, lol.
I think that both topics are on point. It is about IA programmed censorship, after all.
People who complain about "whataboutism" usually dislike direct comparisons.
That's fair; my interest is only passing and my experiences are limited.