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[-] cinaed666@kbin.social 175 points 2 years ago

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My thoughts exactly. You should not be choosing TLDs that are volatile to upsets like this. Stick with the tried and true .com or .net, or one of the new TLDs that are not bound to a nation (unless you can comply with the stipulations) or particular type of organization.

[-] exu@feditown.com 32 points 2 years ago

Or if you absolutely have to, choose the TLD of a country you live in.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That works, too. I'm on lemmy.ca. Buying a .ca domain requires confirmation of citizenship or other qualification before you can even use it.

[-] skiguy0123@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

If I remember correctly it's an honor system thing. You need to declare your a citizen or PR or something

[-] TheGayTramp@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

You don’t even need to be a citizen or PR, you just need to have “a Canadian presence”, which can be as simple as owning a trademark registered in Canada

[-] exu@feditown.com 2 points 2 years ago

Other countries have different requirements so it's good to always check in any case.

[-] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

Agreed. I went with lemmy.ca since I'm Canadian and the instance is in my country.

I also heard Lemmy should perform a little quicker for me too this way.

[-] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago

No, practically speaking the domain name should have no effect on access time. DNS has so many layers of caching that as long as SOMEONE has accessed the website nearby (including you), the domain lookup will be local and therefore fast.

Anyway, DNS lookup times, even slow ones, are still not going to be noticable to the end use originally.

[-] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

No, I meant the instance itself. The server. The one who runs lemmy.ca is here in Canada with me.

It's like when playing a game; You choose servers closet to you for the lowest ping time.

The other reason I neglected to mention was I like to support local. 😎

[-] erwan@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

It makes a difference for a game, but it's not really significant for a website.

The server load and resources will have a much bigger impact on performances than geographic proximity.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

And you spread that server load by selecting different servers. While what you're saying is technically true, in a practical sense if everyone picked a more local server that would be one way to achieve what you're saying.

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[-] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 26 points 2 years ago

Even gTLDs aren't entirely safe. .dev is iffy right now because only Google can give those out and Google domains is going away.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

.dev was stupid from the beginning due to how many local domains like that...

[-] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Alright https://lemmy.zip it is!

Edit: No way someone already did it

[-] DolphinitelyJoe@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago

Hello there stranger. As completely factually appointed ambassador of lemmy.zip, I'd like to extend a warm welcome to all and am glad to see you've discovered our existence.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Zip is the dumbest TLD of all. It is a phishers dream come true. invoice.zip explains it.

[-] Icarus@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

damn that theme is nice

[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Google domains is going away

What the hell, how am I just hearing about this now?

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

They didn't even tell domain holders.

[-] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I wasn't thrilled when I heard the news. I have one maybe two domains with Google and I'm going to be shipped off to somw third party for my renewal. I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure the domain business is being sold to one of those "build your website with us in half an hour" companies and I just cannot wait for the go-daddy like service...which I left go-daddy because of.

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[-] azuth@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

.com and .net are under US jurisdiction they are not stateless. I could also see why the original lemmy developers would not want to use such a domain.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

That may be technically true, but both TLDs are ubiquitous and it's extraordinarily unlikely that the US will suddenly start confiscating millions of .com and .net domain names operated by non-Americans.

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[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

but ML also can stand for Marxist Leninist and im sure has been the the way it was read by most early adopters

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The official and authorized use for the TLD is an association with Mali. It doesn't matter what hip new meaning us internet dweebs want to assign to it.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago

Kinda funny considering they got the ml domain to mean Marxist-Leninist and then would get fucked by nationalization

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago
[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I was thinking the same thing lol

[-] porkloin@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago

Yes, and q-tips aren’t for cleaning your ears.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago

The difference being that Unilever won't confiscate your Q-Tips for cleaning out your earwax.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago
[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lmao, sure, the ear wax cops are gonna show up at your door to raid your garbage cans for waxy cotton swabs

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I have a cat that does this already.. maybe I’ll get her a lil cop outfit (that she would literally kill me before wearing)

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

That's why I buy store brand cotton swabs

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

No, stop spreading this nonsense, it was never chosen because of that. It was used because it was free and the developers don't care about creating funny names with the DNS or for glorified expensive DNS.

[-] theterrasque@infosec.pub 26 points 2 years ago

Or machine learning. There's at least one ML based project that got a headache out of this yesterday.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I feel like after weeks of wondering why .ml, I should've figured this out by myself... Beware, sleep deficit is real!

[-] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Dang I hope lemm.ee is safe. Hopefully Estonia doesn’t decide the same.

[-] sunaurus@lemm.ee 55 points 2 years ago

Well, I'm an Estonian citizen at least 😅

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

I didn't even consider .ee to be a country domain. I thought you used it for the catchy name.

That's pretty cool.

[-] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

afaik all the two-character TLDs are for countries

[-] mouse@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

You are correct, all two-character TLDs are country-code.

Source: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db

[-] ELLIOTTCABLE@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

This is terrible news to me, as an OCaml’eer.

There goes all my potential cool project domains … 😭

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Well, and it's not like this should take anyone by surprise, it's been 10 years coming. Unless Mali was telling people not to worry and then did an about face? I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

[-] deadhead@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For anyone that wants to learn more about internet domains, the MKBHD Waveform podcast has an awesome episode about this topic. It’s a super interesting listen where they talk about how the internet works and one of the organizations behind it (ICANN).

ICANN and the 7 Keys to the Internet

Apple Music

Spotify

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

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