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Poor guy was probably just trying to sleep without freezing to death and then these assholes show up.

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[-] mke@programming.dev 14 points 6 days ago

I wonder how the operator feels.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago

I was wondering that too. But then, this is the kind of person that's cool with destroying everything people have left at the worst point in their lives so..

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago

If he didn't have that job, he'd be on the other end of that bulldozer.

There are secretaries at UHC.

There are janitors at maralago.

These people aren't the problem.

[-] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Please, don't say stuff like that... I've worked jobs where I loathed the company values, but I needed income... One charged more for funerals of "brown" people and had a book on the shelf of the manager's office that said "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS". I'm pansexual and my partner is an immigrant. A job is not a belief. A job is a way to keep a roof over your head until you find a better one

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah, this is exactly why they keep us poor and without security--so we can't act according to our morals. Only theirs.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

I had a job like that too. When I realized how unethical the place was, I quit.

[-] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

Would you have quit if that means you starved? Also your healthcare was immediately ended because it was provided by your job?

What if you had kids? How do you explain to your child you are not eating today because daddy is a moral person?

I see your point, and you did good by quitting, but it is not the people to blame here but the system.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

External circumstances don't turn an immoral action into a moral one. You can never make up for the harms you do in the world. The circumstances you describe sometimes exist but more often than not, there is a choice, but we lack the courage to acknowledge it even exists.

If you became disabled, and suddenly you COULDN'T do the immoral job anymore, well by god, you'd likely find a way to survive. So....

[-] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

Or maybe you will not survive, we can play with woulds and shoulds all day here.

External circumstances don't turn an immoral action into a moral one

That depends on your definition of moral action I guess...

Also we are talking about an accident here, most likely the heavy machine operator doesn't clear homeless shelters every day, but works on a scrapyard or something.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fair points. Not everyone can upend their life like that. I have certainly suffered greatly for doing what I did. I totally agree that this is a problem with the system.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Everyone can upend their life when they genuinely don't have another choice. People keep doing the thing they know is wrong because they DO have a choice.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I know. But it's like meter maids. Everyone needs to pay bills. Maybe they salivated at the chance or maybe their life is ruined forever with trauma. The problem is we don't know them at all.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

How is this comparable to meter maids in any way. They don't do anything wrong at all.

[-] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Come on, they most probably had zero choice in the matter... yes, they could have resigned in protest (and in a sense they should have), but we can't require that people be heroes

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Always up, never down, and only sideways on exceptions

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