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[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 79 points 6 days ago

You can tell this is a poll of what people perceive to be the important jobs because doctor is #1. The most important jobs by sector in order of importance for developed nations is

  1. power supply- we all need electricity and few of us have the ability to generate it ourselves

  2. water supply- getting enough clean water for your day to cook and wash is a near full time job. For Americans a gallon of water is roughly 8lbs and your average toilet uses 3-5 gallons per flush. It would take much of the day to get and purify the water you use

  3. sanitation workers- this the poll got right. The folks collecting waste do more directly for public health than most doctors could hope to do.

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

your average toilet uses 3-5 gallons per flush

I’m pretty sure toilets generally use 1.6 gallons per flush, and that’s a legal mandate.

Source: used to have an autistic obsession with them.

[-] EldritchFeminity 16 points 6 days ago

I'm honestly surprised that cleaner and garbage collector are as high up there on the list as they are because those seem to be jobs that society generally looks down on.

At least the graphic has that going for it.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Wonder if it was a poll during 2020. COVID really highlighted cleaners' jobs as essential.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

I wonder if doctors get elevated on these polls because people feel like it is a more unattainable skill.

I would imagine a lot of people (falsely) assume that it would be easy to plop people into power plants to keep them running, but harder to replace doctors.

My completely unknowledgeable take is that if we had to pick and choose people for the post apocalypse job hunt, we would want way more mechanics and engineers than doctors. Doctors need a lot of hard to obtain stuff to do the most doctor-ey part of their jobs, and if we aren't worried about laws and regulations, then we don't need them for things like prescriptions.

Most of what they would be needed for in that scenario to me seems like emergency care, like first aid, which you don't really need all the superfluous med school training for.

Meanwhile, the hydroelectric dam that the new post apocalypse group is forming at needs a lot of varied disciplines and specialties just to keep it running.

[-] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 8 points 6 days ago

What about the least essential?

  1. Tax consultants - helping companies avoid contributing to society
  2. Marketeers - manipulating people into buying worse products for higher prices
  3. Middle management - causing a lot of fuzz while doing nothing of significance.

Just to name a few. An artists contribution may be abstract but it's certainly there. There are others that actively sabotage society and very often they make a lot of money.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

For modern society, sure. For foundational society, you don't have any societies without Farmers, Educators, and some sort of doctor.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

We had hunter gatherer societies with none of those jobs.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Sure, but we didn't have even ancient cities without them

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Cites come after societies form though so they aren't foundational.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I assume this is why we hear about foreign actors targeting power stations more than hospitals.

[-] lowside@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Without power all those hospitals are nearly useless. Sure there are backup generators but they only run the bare minimum and only for so long.

Disable the power grid and the affects will be catastrophic on any developed nation. All the food will be spoiled within a few days to a few weeks. No business will be able to run including gas stations. Most communication will be down.

The whole area grinds to a halt untill power can be restored. Do enough damage to take out the power for a week to a large city and the damage will be incalculable. Not to mention the lives lost in that time.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This is also why GWB tried to redo the US electrical grid but failed. It is a huge target that needs to be updated.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A quick image search returned this

https://mothership.sg/2020/06/milieu-survey-sunday-times-essential/

So many commenters are missing crucial context to this infographic.

This was released during peak covid and I mean PEAK as in June 2020, global lockdowns, high mortality rates, shortages of essentials. In case anyone has a short memory, the world as we knew it practically ground to a halt.

Not to take away anything from artists but essential in this context meant essential to the basic human needs. Health, Nutrition, Sanitation.

[-] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I had similar thoughts. Someone more knowledgeable would probably call them "healthcare professionals", or "healthcare practitioners", not "doctors and nurses".

And you're right, as important as they are, they can't do their jobs without the infrastructure you're pointing out. Power and water are more essential, as they enable everyone all of the time. And waste piling up would create serious problems fairly quickly.

This reminds me of the Silo series, where every level thinks they keep the Silo running.

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