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Trump plans to lift the Biden administration’s freeze on supplying 2,000-pound bombs to Israel and reverse sanctions against Israeli settlers.

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[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure how telling me that she's the same as Biden is any kind of rebuttal to what I said. I responded to someone saying they believed Kamala and Trump would have no meaningful difference in their handling of it. I replied by linking to quotes from those two people showing a markedly different attitude (one says "stop shooting" and the other says "keep shooting until it's done"). And now we're seeing that Trump, as President, is carrying out actions consistent with what he said as a candidate, which were and are the opposite of what Kamala was saying before the election.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Because Biden was not meaningfully opposing the genocide but would say he wanted peace. We can't know whether Harris was actually lying when she said she didn't want to change anything, but saying she's in favor of a cease fire and saying she didn't want to act any differently than Biden isn't a contradiction. He said he wanted a cease fire, and then he armed and shielded the genocide. We already have the template for how that works.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You still are ignoring the fact that we were comparing Kamala and Trump.

We already have the template for how that works.

And Trump said as a candidate he thought we should do even less than Biden, and now is doing exactly that. So where in all of this am I supposed to have expected that Kamala would have been the same as Trump?

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

At some point the genocide is bad enough that there's not much difference in further degrees. Doing even less than Biden isn't a whole lot less, because Biden was barely doing anything and none of it seems to have been at all effective. An advanced military with unrestrained targeting and an infinite supply of 500 lb. bombs can destroy things pretty completely.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Perhaps we should try to agree on what empowering means:

Trump's actions are empowering the genocide because they are clearly supportive of both Israel's bombing and occupation.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I call it giving "power". AKA a nearly unlimited flow of weapons and diplomatic cover.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

How does Trump decreasing restrictions not give more diplomatic cover?

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