Those aren't mutually exclusive; “American indoctrination.” is the reason so many lemmitors disagree with such extreme views as "sending weapons that prolong war is bad for the people who will suffer the effects of those weapons, mostly civilians", "supporting al-nusra is bad", "we shouldn't put tariffs on EVs and solar panels", or "the chinese government having your data is less of a threat to you than the american government having your data"