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This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Most people seem to agree it wasn't transphobia, but here's the context: https://lemmy.world/post/1893561

There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active, but they got shut down pretty quickly

[-] ada 57 points 1 year ago

There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active

That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.

[-] hypelightfly@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

To be clear, some of the comments you removed were from the person you are now replying to.

[-] ada 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, I'm aware. You can see the list here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&userId=170858

They were removed, because a meme community on a trans run instance isn't the place for a discussion on the specifics of why you don't want to fuck trans people.

We hear that enough, every day, in every place we look online. We don't need it here too.

Was the post transphobic? That depends on who you ask, but either way, what it wasn't is "unambiguously supportive"

It's also worth pointing out that those posts were not the trigger for this thread

[-] Zymii 46 points 1 year ago

a meme community on a trans run instance isn't the place for a discussion on the specifics of why you don't want to fuck trans people.

I really wish more people got this

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

It's like Pokémon, you made eye contact with someone on a meme sub and suddenly you're forced into a debate you don't want to have.

👀 Barbie or Oppenheimer? Answer me, Zymi!

[-] Dee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It’s also worth pointing out that those posts were not the trigger for this thread

That's a relief! I was a little worried because I like this instance but was butting heads in the one post. Thank you for running this instance. I threw what money I can at the moment to the blahaj.zone Kofi because I feel bad I might've made your job harder as an admin lol

[-] Juno@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I was thinking about this in the context of a conversation I was privy to recently boiled down it was basically "I don't have a problem with trans people But...sexually assaulting kids is bad But...teaching sexual orientation to 3 year Olds is bad"

I don't want to have to feel like I need to "just leave"

[-] alternative_factor@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

The post seems transphobic in a "chaser" sort of way to me, not trans though.

[-] LeylaaLovee 25 points 1 year ago

It seems very "chaser" to me. In other comments, the poster mentioned how he was attracted to "post op trans women and pre op trans men". Grouping those two demographics together in this way will never be seen as not chaser.

[-] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago
[-] LeylaaLovee 21 points 1 year ago

Someone who fetishizes trans people. You find trans people hot? That's totally fine, you can have preferences. But grouping post op trans women and pre op trans men sexually is saying that they're being viewed as women regardless of their identity.

If you wanna fuck a trans person, it should be because you're attracted to them. Maybe you like boobs and penis together and that's fine. Maybe you like a masculine chest and a vagina. You can be attracted to a certain intersection, even if that intersection is a straight one. But fucking them because they're trans and exotic is chasing. If you like women, fuck trans women. If you like men, fuck trans men. But don't just randomly flip them around like there's no difference to you.

[-] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you. It was my first time hearing the term.

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