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Meta’s pivot to the right sparks boycotts and a user exodus
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I don’t agree with this - at least not in the sense that there’s a significant difference between the left and the right here. Both sides tend to oversimplify and misrepresent each other’s views in online discussions. However, when you dig deeper into why someone holds a certain stance, it’s very rare to find it entirely lacking in nuance, regardless of which political side they’re coming from.
But the issue is that right-wing positions aren't logically coherent. There's always at least a couple of points where they don't logically work, because the positions aren't derived from axioms or first principles. They only make sense if you ignore lots of counterarguments.
Even if left-wing positions are held without nuance, the positions themselves can still be complex. This simply isn't the case with right-wing positions.
So while the reasons for holding a right-wing position might have nuance, the positions themselves don't.
That's quite a broad generalization. While this applies to some positions, sure, you seem to be implying it's true of right-wing views as a whole which simply isn't true.
I would honestly say that the number of logically coherent and purely right-wing positions is vanishingly small. There are a bunch of right-wing positions that, individually, are logically coherent - but most of them are also part of some left-wing frameworks, so not purely right-wing. Do you have some examples in mind? I'd be happy to be proven wrong!
Even something like being anti-abortion is a perfectly logical stance to hold for someone who beliefs that soul enters the body at conception. That belief is based on what I'd argue is a false premise but I can't exactly prove that either. It's not logical from my perspective but it is from theirs.
I'm not so much talking about right wing beliefs per-se but about the shift towards the centre which is to the right. Where it crosses to the side of the right, I don't know and I doubt there even is concensus on that. Something like being against DEI programs, I guess, is considered to be quite "right wing" yet virtually all of the people whose opinions I respect are against it and I'd hardly consider any of them right wing. Freedom of speech would be another - also fitting the context.
If strictly held, anti-abortion positions are one of the rare examples - though you can also find them in some spiritual/religious contexts (though it's hard to call them logically consistent - if the soul enters the body at conception, twins either share a soul or only possess half of one).
When you talk about "DEI programs", what does that include? Big parts of DEI are outreach programs, but I'll go ahead and assume you're not referring to those. But even for the others, is there absolutely no program you think that can make sense? That position is honestly only logically coherent in right-wing worldviews.
As an example, in Germany there are fewer women on the boards of big companies than men named "Michael". Do you think that's because women don't apply for these positions, or aren't a good fit?