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submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Not who you replied to, but how so?

[-] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I don't know anything about you, but for the sake of argument, imagine you're part of a marginalized group. Now, imagine that you use a product. The owner of said product has openly stated that they hate your very existence because you're part of that marginalized group. You have decided that this is a good reason to stop giving them your money.

When does free speech come into this? How does one person's money/profit affect another's right to speak? It doesn't. Choosing where you spend your money is you utilizing your freedom to express yourself via your wallet, just the same as they chose to express themself via words. Both the objector and the CEO are saying "I disagree with your views on the world and as such no longer desire your business". Well, maybe the CEO still wants your business.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago

owner of said product has openly stated that they hate your very existence

Of all the things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most.

[-] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure, they just said they strongly support someone who has openly said that. Totally not the same thing

this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
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