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Sure. If.
But it's not going to happen. Ever. The world is doomed and it's a massive systemic issue. Me eating fake cheese isn't going to fix it. A million people eating fake cheese won't help it. It will exacerbate it.
The problem is capitalism and the scale of industrial farming. It's not going to change by people being voluntarily vegan.
Appeal to Futility again. A vegan diet literally fixes the problem. It would remove 68% of the food chains climate emissions.
What do you think drives capitalism? If YOU stop eating animal products, and convince other people like I have, the demand for them drops. YOU are the problem, YOU are creating the demand, stop blaming a system, when you're literally the reason it exists.
didn't you try that?
And Ive reduced my carbon emissions immensely. Now it's your turn.
as far as I can tell carbon emissions keep rising.
Because people continue to emit carbon. If people went vegan, carbon emissions would reduce.
but you just said that you went vegan, and they didn't reduce. the evidence does not support your theory.
They did reduce. Fewer animals have been bred to feed me as my demand isn't there. Fewer emissions.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=%7EOWID_WRL
according to this, we are producing more meat than ever
And if I and all other vegans started eating meat, they'd need to produce even more.
You do realise me eating meats means the world has to produce more meat right?
If Billy has 5 marbles, and Johnny asks for a marble, Billy now has 4 marbles. Billy will have to get another marble to have 5 again.
If Johnny doesn't ask for marble, Billy will still have 5 marbles.
Am I going to fast for you?
there is no reason to believe more could have been produced than already was.
edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.
Why is there no reason to believe that
that's not causal
Billy is making marbles. Billy now has five marbles. Johnny buys all five marbles. Billy now has to make more.
One day, Johnny stops buying marbles. Question, does Billy endlessly continue making marbles forever? Or does Billy stop once he realises demand is causally linked to supply?
Let me know if this is still too complex.
no he doesn't. he gets to choose whether to make more.
edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.
I'm going to treat you like a toddler, because I genuinely don't think you have the capacity for anything more. Here we go!
Billy no make marbles because people no buy anymore. Billy too many marbles!
but meat continues to be made in greater quantities ever since you stopped buying it. your theory doesn't hold up.
edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.
Oh you're being obtuse, okay. Maybe when you've grown up a little and can understand cause and effect you can have this conversation. Finish high school maybe? Get a degree, come back to me when you can actually talk with the intelligent people.
which farm farmed less because of you?
The ones I used to buy meat from.
can you name one?
Elwood farm
So you believe that shit BP made up about us watching our carbon footprints so they can blame us for climate change? If so then shut the fuck up, because you don't actually care about stopping or reducing climate change, if you're going to advocate for the solutions that were literally made up by the oil companies so we wouldn't protest them and/or get their business BANNED, which is how these problems are actually solved.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/23/big-oil-coined-carbon-footprints-to-blame-us-for-their-greed-keep-them-on-the-hook
Yes I'm aware of that. You can go vegan AND protest oil companies, look at Greta Thunberg. Just because a bad corporation tells you to cut down on your emissions, doesn't automatically make that message bad.
I like the passion though, doesn't it feels frustrating being so anti-oil company, but defending the meat industry? They're both horrible industries destroying the planet, propagandizing the populace, and destroying our health.
You're not god.
Nor are you. And unlike God (and you, apparently), I'm existing in reality.
That's a lot of arrogance to say you're "existing in reality" when nobody can see into the future.
It's more arrogant to say "If the world suddenly adopted my view, climate change is basically solved, the risk of zoonotic diseases (COVID, bird flu, swine flu etc) basically stops, the risk of treatment resistant antibiotics hugely drops, conscious feeling creatures aren't tortured and killed for pleasure."
If I wanted to fight vegans right now, I'd be downstairs talking to my wife. I'm happy being ovo-lacto again. My girls are well cared for (I built them a mansion of a coop out of mostly reclaimed wood), and they repay me daily, and I'm enjoying creamy cheeses and ice cream that doesn't taste like frostbitten ass (or paying $9/pint for a decent alternative)