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Eating meat creates four times more greenhouse gases than being vegan, landmark study finds
(www.independent.co.uk)
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The TLDR: Here, you need to eat these grass clippings to save the planet. Never mind every store you go to has items made-of and encased in plastic. Never mind that your fuel efficient car is made of plastic. Never mind the climate spokespeople that live in houses and fly in private jets have an environmental impact of small cities. Listen to them tell you what to eat and how to live, just don't question what they eat and how they live. If there is going to be real change, we won't have yearly cellphone upgrades. Items will packaged in biodegradable materials. We won't have same-day delivery for anything. Hospitals and medical offices will go back to glass, metal and reusables. They will sterilize instead of throwing away. Items will be repairable instead of refuse when they break. The burden has always been placed on the individual, but a company is given a pass because they say good things, not do good things.
You can easily be opposed to all those things and fight for change while being vegan.
Imo veganism, like addressing your carbon footprint, should be an individual choice and not pushed on others for the sake of the climate. It has too small an impact for the difficulty of getting people to change. That effort is better spent lobbying government.
But for me personally, I don't feel right eating beef knowing how bad it is for the climate. If someone asks me why I don't eat cow products, I explain. But I don't try to push it on anyone else.
Similarly, I pay companies to sequester my estimated personal carbon footprint because I can afford it and it helps me sleep at night. But that's not a solution to climate change.
We're at the start of an enormous climate crisis that doesn't have a single solution. We should definitely push each other to do much better on all fronts. Reducing meat eating happens to play a pretty important role. So when somebody tries to get you to do better, please be receptive. This needs all of us and we live in a closed densely connected social system.
If you care about the climate going vegan has the most impact one can do according to the IPCC. I am vegan and still have enough energy to fight for change on different topics. It is not that that its a excuse to do nothing else, it is just the bare minimum in my eyes.
The IPCC are a bunch of ineffective wishful thinking idiots.
Cut subsidies to meat. Tax carbon. That's the only way you can get meaningful demand-side action: through a response to supply-side actions.
This is one part of their recommendations, cut meat subsidies and use it for plant based food, have you not read the report? Or do you wish that they use nukes to force it?
I wish that they do anything at all to force it.
So you are vegan, or do you need a strong figure in your life to force the change upon you that you want to see?
Or do you use the "but not everyone" as a excuse for your behavior?
Need something to force me. So, same as most people.
Next question?
No further questions, I don't debate those who prefer fascism over personal responsibility.
"Fascism" = literally anything I disagree with rofl
You're like the Fox News idiots blathering on about how everything is socialism
Maybe it is more of a sexual thing for you when you want somebody to tell you what to do? Have you been a bad consoomer? Do you need to be punished with veggies?
How weak has one to be to call for a strong ruler who forbids them to kill others for pleasure when they could chose it any day...
The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to everyone. Good job.
If not needing some ruler who dictates me how to behave makes me superior, I take it.
Impossible Whoppers are vegan (if you don't add cheese) and do not taste like grass clippings