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Trump reportedly complaining about Elon in private — and hates ‘President Musk’ joke
(www.independent.co.uk)
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I think I got the nuance behind 'bigoted man I disagree with is actually a woman because women amirite?'.
I'm trans, and like actually hate these people, they deserve ridicule. However, if I'm willing to tolerate bigotry on my behalf towards people that are in some out-group, there's no guarantee that some day I won't be among that out-group and subsequently targeted by that type of bigotry. Do you understand the issue I'm raising?
I can't tolerate people misgendering Caitlen Jenner or Blair white because while they suck, it only contributes to an environment where that type of insult is then considered acceptable.
You're the type to get weirdly sexual and homophobic when it's people you disagree with. Not really interested in what you have to say tbh.
you don't seem like you handle people disagreeing with you well. you've already called me schizophrenic because I had an issue with your history of homophobic comments, only to be like "well they're people I don't like politiclly so it's okay"
that was my original point, so thank you for demonstrating the behavior I guess
Clicking on your moderation history is not stalking, it's literally right in the drop-down next to block user for me, and that was all right the top of your history.
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All I said was that I don't like seeing misogynist, homophobic transphobic, or sexual insults being used against even my enemies, because that's not behavior I would want to condone in my allies, or in spaces I participate in.
You seem to have an enormous chip on your shoulder, judging from your response to a trans woman giving her opinion on the matter. Your response was saying I'm mentally ill and a stalker for pointing out your past homophobic and aggressive behavior that's publicly visible and extremely obvious.
If making up conspiracies helps you cope with your life that's certainly an approach people take.
I spoke up up to say I didn't like seeing 'allies' using bigoted language and you immediately got defensive which is a huge tell.
You just seem like a centrist extremist looking for an excuse to be homophobic.
Idk what your beef is with that poster but if you provide some background maybe I'll understand what you're referencing.
If bigoted language is common in the spaces you frequent that says a lot about what your lived experience has been.
I get the feeling that you're already there, you just prefer a different aesthetic from the red hats.
Reacting defensively to earnest criticism speaks volumes, I'm afraid.
Usually when it's pointed out to me that I'm reacting defensively I take a moment to think about why that is, maybe you should do the same.
so why is sucking dick a thing requiring a secret relationship?
also it seems like a specifically gendered expression, why wouldn't you say "eating Russian pussy" if you wanted to imply that there's some relationship
It just scans as homophobic, just as calling trump/elon women as an insult reads as misogynistic.
Are you trying to say that when you're a misogynist you tend to use misogynistic insults? Because that tracks.
byeeeee
I still don't see how your words aren't bigotry just because you're convinced you have a suitable target.
You never really answered my question directly, why does sucking dick imply a secret/subservient relationship?
quoting you:
you were the one who said that the expression "sucking dick" means "sucking up to someone else"- do people often "suck up to" their subordinates or their superiors?
Nope.
It goes like this: ‘bigoted man is bigoted because this will aggravate his orange tits. If bigoted man was not bigoted it would not be possible to rip on him like this.’
Put another way: ‘I am a bigot, said John.’
If that doesn’t clarify it then I’m out of patience to explain further.
I made the mistake of trying to converse with that user. Their history doesn't indicate they are a full time troll, but on these kinds of topics, they certainly are. And I remember them also defending infamous banned troll UniversalMonk on multiple occasions, if you remember that guy.
That's cool I don't need any more explanations.
That’s cool I don’t ~~need~~ hear any ~~more~~ explanations.
Edit: worth noting that nowhere in this thread does this user talk about how language they don't like feels to them. They just repeatedly state what it "is" condescendingly. And then they intentionally troll people pushing back on that. Funny enough, they accidentally confirmed they are trolling by admitting they are an ESL but then insisting on what expressions mean and sealioning me about them.