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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Umana's posts are pro-Luigi (and some have unorthodox angles, like saying he wasn't the shooter, which authorities have charged him with).

Ah yes because someone is "being charged", that means that its unorthodox to presume innocence...

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

But isn't it odd to presume he's not the shooter while also semi-worshipping him? Like if he's not the shooter then he's just some dude who was at McDonald's at the wrong time.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 months ago

That is indeed odd yeah, but you can still worship the idea of guillotines without being sure who let the blade fall.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's pretty clear that he did the act. However he's still entitled to the presumption of innocence as a legal fact. The state must win its case. Whether he did it and whether the state can prove he's guilty are two separate issues. See: OJ Simpson

[-] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Jury nullification.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Well there's basically two possible states. Either Luigi didn't do it in which case the one who actually did is the hero and Luigi is just a proxy for this unknown individual, or he did do it in which case Luigi is the hero. Either way doesn't really change the sentiment as at the end of the day someone who was actively making the lives of millions of Americans worse and directly contributing to many thousands of preventable deaths was killed. Who actually pulled the trigger is kind of immaterial.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Agreed. It's weird to me that some people seem to be in both states at the same time.

[-] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Luigi is an idea. An idea is what the people appreciate. We must presume innocence until guilt is proven when it comes to Luigi as a person. But Luigi as an idea or as a meme is a separate thing entirely.

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