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[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

An amoeba struggling as it's being eaten by a larger amoeba isn't self-aware.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

To some degree it is. There is some evidence that plants can experience pain in their own way.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

An instinctive, machine-like reaction to pain is not the same as consciousness. There might be more to creatures like plants and insects and this is still being researched, but for now, most of them appear to behave more like automatons than beings of greater complexity. It's pretty straightforward to completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software, but I don't think anyone would argue that this kind of program is able to achieve self-awareness.

[-] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 11 months ago

It's pretty straightforward to completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software

Could you provide an example of a complete housefly model?

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry, but I can't find it right now, it's a vague memory from a textbook or lecture.

[-] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 11 months ago

I strongly suspect you have some wires crossed. There have been some attempts at simulating brains but I think a fruit fly is partially done and it's making a fair few assumptions.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 11 months ago

@DdCno1@beehaw.org you are thinking of Caenorhabditis elegans (C. elegans), a tiny nematode worm. My understanding is that while the entire brain is replicated, full behavior is not. Basic locomotion is still being worked on.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWorm

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

completely replicate the behavior of e.g. a house fly in software

You may be thinking of "complete mapping of a fruit fly brain", from Oct 2024:

https://www.science.org/content/article/complete-map-fruit-fly-brain-circuitry-unveiled

It's still some way off from simulating it in software, and a house fly is supposedly more complex.

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