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Real communism has never really existed. They’re just authoritarian dictatorships that hoard power and wealth at the top while paying lip service to whatever variant of social policy they offer the masses. The people are never actually given the power over the State or control of production.
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Counterpoint: my parents and grandparents lived in the Soviet Union, and I now live in Ukraine, with many of Soviet systems still fresh in memory, if not in place. Priority was not placed in the human service, as much as you want to pretend through rose tinted glasses. The rest of your quote is generalisation of my words that I never said.
Update: oh wait, the fourth point is also blatantly untrue. Soviets literally swallowed a whole host of countries that happened to be occupied by Russian Empire at the time of revolution. Of course they wouldn't need to invade them: the job was already done for them.
How are you gonna blame soviets for the russian empire?!
You changed your comment
The USSR was a social democracy, there can be no such thing as a "communist country".
What not reading theory does to an mf.
You'd have to let coherent arguments first, not just purely vibes based assertions.
Lol, speaking of stereotypes: self proclamation anarchists acting like literal children.
And it never will exist, because politically inert western liberals who have declared themselves the true arbiters of "real communism" will reflexively disqualify anything western propaganda tells them to.
I would like to hear your examples of it existing.
No, I'm agreeing with you, only Western liberals who get their knowledge from Wikipedia are actually communists: the rest are just devious, evil, foreign authoritarians who are merely pretending in other to deceive the true protagonists of history: western liberals.
It will never exist because there are a huge number of people who want a strongman leader to tell them what to do. That has nothing to do with "inert western liberals," that's been the truth for the entire history of humanity.
Of course, there are no true communists.
Also use the term "Democratic Socialism" to contrast with the other Communist/Socialist ideologies that involves Vanguardism. People hear "Socialism" and think "Big Bad Dictator", I'm like bruh, Socialism and Democracy isn't mutually exclusive, its totally compatible.
I personally prefer libertarian socialism (in particular, anarchism), but I'm down for anything that is not authoritarian and not capitalistic.
all states are authoritarian the nature of the state is authority
Yes, that's why the goal should be to make states obsolete
The only way to accomplish that is with international socialism
That would be ideal, yes
It’s arguably not socialism without democracy in some form. If the people have no say, then it isn’t social ownership. Vanguardism can claim it’s a step towards socialism, but until power is decentralized somehow it’s just state capitalism.
The external forces in the west via war, opposition, and sanctions, had a part to play in this Soviet contradiction.
That’s pretty much what Engels called it. He argued it was a step in dismantling capitalism, similar to Lenin.
So sure, maybe they were socialist in intent, but vanguardism is really just state capitalism until power is decentralized.
This is a communist space, there is no 'waking up'
These people think that when you change the names of things, the nature of the things themselves change
I'm not sure how you think quoting words that were written before Soviets' massive failure to build anything described in them would help your argument, but sure