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Suck it micro USB, mini USB, and lightning! 🪫🔋

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[-] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago

Can we bring back the charging as well, and not just the USB cable... Oh, and while you're at it, screws instead of glue, to replace batteries would be awesome.

Thx!

[-] RacerX@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago

There's a rule coming into effect in 2027 that enforces user replaceable batteries for devices in the EU. https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027

[-] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

while 2027 is better than nothing, I still wonder why it took them so long. Glue in smartphones has been around for probably a decade now.

Also, I think, anything that has a battery, should be user replacable... even teeny-tiny earbuds.

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

To allow the manufacturers to adapt and phase out?

[-] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

For USB sure... it's kinda "newish". But, I mean, they could've intervened much sooner, when glue became the standard for assembling phones.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

The delay on USB was to let the industry standardize on its own. The EU hinted to all manufacturers that they needed to standardize. Then it outright stated. Then because Apple was run by pricks, the EU had to legislate USB-C to force it.

Now, when something better comes along (like when mini USB gave way to micro USB, then to USB-C), there will need to be new legislation to allow that connector.

[-] RacerX@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Totally agree! It's seemingly gotten worse recently too. My phone is 5 years old and I was still able to replace the battery at home but it took special tools and a hair dryer. The newest Pixels and Galaxy phones look impossible to do with my current skillset.

Things like Fairphone and the HMD Skyline should be the norm going forward.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's always an implementation period with these things, also with the USB thing, to allow companies to build and sell phones that are already in the pipeline. Expect, just as with the USB thing, replaceable batteries to become a common sight quite soon and ubiquitous by 2027. You can already get quite decent smartphones with replaceable batteries but it's the usual suspects Fairphone, Gigaset, and (at least one model of) Samsung, those would also exist without the regulation. The "oh shit they actually passed it we'll need to re-engineer things" models from everyone else still aren't on the market.

And before anyone brings it up: Yes, you can make them waterproof.

[-] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Waterproof

Strongly agree!

Looking back, I suspect this was only an argument to make them hard to repair, as always, just worded in a sense like it'd benefit the customer.

FFS, just add some rubber... We've used rubber in condoms for centuries (kinda) succesfully, what made them think glue'd be better... I ain't gonna put glue on my ding-dong, if that's what they're after all these years.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

I suspect this was only an argument to make them hard to repair, as always

They don’t mind the benefit, for sure. But as somebody who worked in manufacturing support jobs up until a couple years ago, I’m 90% confident it’s just faster and cheaper to glue them. Probably easier to automate too. Again it just comes down to money.

Just thinking of the scale of R&D for something like a flagship phone, there are a LOT of person-hours dedicated to manufacturability.

[-] tht@social.pwned.page 7 points 1 week ago
[-] weew@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Noice. I am definitely waiting until 2028ish before upgrading my phone, if not a bit longer.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Sadly, it still allows to glue batteries with very little requirements.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

no keep the glue please. I love that my phone's back just came off on its own just because it was hot outside and the glue melted away. it was fun and exciting!

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

You must have been in death valley or something because the glue doesn't melt into like 80° C

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

the phone heats with use as well. but yeah Samsung is known for its high build quality. it's not like they made devices that explode or anything.

[-] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Just get a Fairphone, with every module screwed into place. Except the battery, you can just take that out by hand.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

That's true, but if the EU could force every phone maker to make the battery replaceable by the customer this would be a huuuuuuge step in the right direction and reduce electronic waste.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 1 week ago

It's already enforced. All devices sold in the EU from 2027 will need a user-replaceable battery.

We're going to see some manufacturers come out with those devices sooner, though. I hope.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Ah thanks, didnt knew that.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Also, the batteries need to be available at a reasonable price to the user.
Or they'll start scheming

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