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Ready player one.

That has to be one of the cringiest movies I've seen, is tries so hard, too hard with it's "WE LOVE YOU NERD, YOU'RE SO COOL FOR PLAYING GAMES AND GETTING THIS 80S REFERENCE" message and the whole "corporation bad, the people good" narrative seems written for toddlers... The fan service feels cheap and adds nothing to the story.

Finally, they trying to make the people believe that very attractive girl with a barely visible red tint spot on her face is "ugly"... Like wtf?

Yet it received decent reviews plus being one of the most successful movies of that year.

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[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Anime. I just don't get the appeal.

[-] marioms@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

Anime is a medium. It's like saying "American cartoon", yeah like, which one? The Simpsons? ATLA?

At least give one title or something for people who don't treat them as a genre.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 months ago

American cartoon stinks! It's nothing but booger jokes and nudity! /s

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Right. I don't like the genre. I don't know any specific titles. It's no different than me not liking lifetime movies. I can't tell you the title of any specific show or movies I just know if it's on, and I'm watching it for whatever reason, I do not enjoy watching it.

[-] marioms@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

It’s no different than me not liking lifetime movies.

Fair point, you do you.

[-] chocosoldier 1 points 3 months ago

Neither "anime" nor "American cartoon" are a medium. Animation is the medium. "Anime" is the delusion that animation somehow fundamentally becomes something else when it's done on one of a handful of particular islands off the coast of mainland asia.

[-] marioms@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Japanese/American cartoon = cartoon = medium (correct me if I'm wrong)

Also, anime in Japanese means cartoon.

My point still stands, whether it's a medium or not

[-] chocosoldier 1 points 3 months ago

yeah you're good it's just a pet peeve of mine

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

They're just stories with a different set of tropes than what we typically see in the west.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

And sometimes dragged on forever for no real reason other than to fill air time. Looking at you One Piece. Yuck.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I like anime, but wont touch shounen with a ten foot pole. And that includes "American Anime", which seems to almost exclusively be the shounen genre.

Western shows tend to fall into a similar pattern. A show will just keep getting dragged on longer then it should and end up tanking its popularity. How fucking long did Super Natural or Walking Dead last?

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Oh, you're right, I'm being unfairly biased. I stopped watching Walking Dead precisely because it went on and on aimlessly, just like Westworld. lol

[-] autriyo@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

Have you watched non episodic anime? There's a lot of Movie length anime out there often with more mature theming.

Akira was probably the first anime that put the medium on the map for me at all. The animated Ghost in the shell movie is also pretty good. And almost all of the Studio Ghibli films.

You could also try stuff like Cowboy Bebop or Serial Experiments Lain for episodic but still short works.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Have you seen Blood of Zeus or Castlevania?

[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

My friend who never watches anime always goes on about the same point and I just have to laugh because there are maybe 2 shows matching that description out of 100 in a year.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Haha, yeah you caught me. I haven't watched a lot of anime, but I do remember how I dreaded the bunch of fillers in the ones I watched before I detached completely from it, so I'm just being salty about it.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

I mean, that's not unique.

I'm looking at you Heroes 🤣

[-] Azal@pawb.social 3 points 3 months ago

So as an anime fan I'll give a hint on terminology if you want to take an approach at it. What you're talking about is the genre Shonen which is targeted for boys in school, roughly translates even to "young boy." Because of that it's the ones that you have a group that's relatively easy to cater to... hence drag on for ever and ever like US comic books. There are a LOT of genres in anime like there are in western tv and it'll still be a YMMV because completely different culture, but because of the medium there are still some small studios that are willing to do some stories that are difficult to get in western media because it's too risky for corporations (granted that's been less the case with streaming coming out)

The number one that I'm sure anyone would recommend if you want to make an attempt is Cowboy Bebop because it's a good blend of western sensibility, it's a noir in being a group of down on their luck bounty hunters in space, set to a jazz, blues and rock soundtrack and has a good English dub from an era back when that was rare. And importantly, the story ends.

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The issue is the way the stories are done in the super cheesy/corny/wierd style that is anime. Just not something I find entertaining.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Animation in general will exaggerate the expression of emotion by necessity, to an extent.

I'm not sure what style you're talking about specifically, that is inherent to anime. If I had to guess you've just not been exposed to anime in other styles.

But it's fine if you've got enough media that you like, not everyone needs to try everything.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

For me the appeal is "2D Animation is a genre I like, and outside of Cal-Art bullshit it's basically dead in my home country."

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

For me its mostly that with a bit of "this is a foreign film/show so some cultural references and formulas are entirely new to me!" excitement sprinkled in

[-] chocosoldier 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Anime" is a bullshit word that just means "animation made in japan". We don't do this with any other country or culture's animation and for that reason I think it's a stupid meaningless convention. American animation runs the gamut from Chowder to Big Mouth to Cinderella; nobody lumps those together under one term that means "animation made in the USA" and pretends its a unique genre or medium.

That said, the vast majority of what's popular over here for japanese animation is stupid cringey shit and way too much of it has pedo vibes for my taste, not to mention the overreactive fandom that will respond to you pointing out shit like blatant child molestation on screen by calling you a pedophile for noticing it before they go back to simping over middle school child characters.

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