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It's almost like he needs every country in the world with large defense industries to help him out or something, isn't it?
Yeah, certainly. But what about Palestinian lives? Don’t they deserve the recognition, human rights and such? Apparently that’s entirely different for Zelensky.
Earlier in the thread you asked what was the "whataboutism" in your question. Went ahead and highlighted the approximate location. Hope that helps.
Oh, yeah. Thanks so you are on the “what”? I can rephrase it; “Why are Palestinian lives being ignored by Zelensky and he seems to be totally encouraging the same thing to happen to the Palestinians which is happening to his own people; innocents being murdered”
EDIT: rephrased it even better.
Rephrasing it doesn't change the message. People are allowed to focus on the most pressing matter at hand.
Have the Palestinians appropriately denounced Russia's invasion of Ukraine? I mean it's like they don't even want help. They're all "I'm getting bombed and systematically murdered." and not a peep about Ukraine. Truly despicable behavior. /s
Palestinians don’t really get the platform Zelensky gets do they? I get your sarcasm though.
Yeah and just as people are allowed to focus on “most pressing matter at hand”, I’m allowed to say it’s hypocrisy and stick to my opinion.
Why are Palestinian leaders ignoring Ukrainian lives? Why aren’t they condemning Russias attack?
Good question and why should they when Zelensky said Israel has every right to defend themselves (despite Israel has been occupying, terrorizing, torturing the Palestinians)?
Besides that, I would not know.
To my knowledge, Zelenskyy only expressed support for Israel after October the 7th, 2023, over a year and a half after Russia launched its full scale invasion of Ukraine — a year and a half during which Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Palestinian Authority could have condemned Russia's war against Ukraine. They didn't, presumably, for the same reason Zelenskyy has expressed support for Israel: to avoid antagonizing their allies, morals be damned. Given their dire situation –both Ukraine and the Palestinians rely heavily on their respective allies for military and diplomatic support–, I think we ought to give them a pass. If you disagree, at least apply the same logic to both and condemn them equally.
Apparently Zelensky realizes that telling Israel to fuck off right now would be a bad idea what with him fighting an invading force.
But I'm sure righteous indignation wouldn't have any repercussions.
Once again, does not take away the hypocrisy. But I’m sure, it’s alright. Right? Hypocrisy is normal, I suppose.
It’s entirely normal to say, it’s okay to flatten an entire area, murder people in the name of self defense and then condemn when it happens to your own country.
Yes, it is entirely normal to take a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" approach in war. Even if the enemy is monstrous themselves.
Or do you think the Allies would have beaten the Nazis if they said, "Stalin is a murderer and a ruthless autocrat. We shall not be working with him and we condemn his genocide in Ukraine?" Because I'm betting no.
Once again, hypocrisy. Just because he’s fighting for his own country and is against Russia. Does not mean, everyone should just be okay with the hypocrisy.
But, alright I see. It’s normal.
I can't speak for you, but I'd rather live a hypocrite than die at the hands of a Russian or North Korean soldier.
Alright, well I agree with you. Would not want to die too. Still I stick to my opinion.
It would only be hypocrite if Ukraine supports Israel.
Afaik they are neutral and too busy with their own affairs.
Who even says Ukraine doesn't condemn Israel?
Zelensky said that Israel has “right to defend itself” (while they’re the occupiers). I linked that somewhere in another comment.
So that one statement implies support?
Israel are occupiers, yes, but Hamas attacked territories which everyone agrees are solidly Israel, and not occupied Palestine. Which, on first glance, is a-ok until you recognise that the whole thing was 5% attacks on military targets and 95% war crimes.
Oh, side note: Russia drew up the battle plan and trained Hamas to execute it. As far as Ukraine is concerned Hamas is a friend of their enemy, no different from Iran or North Korea.
Also I really don't vibe with you equating Palestinians and Hamas. Smells of hasbara.
Apparently you are not aware that Zelenskyy is not invading Palestine.
Wow, I did not know that. Thanks for pointing that out /s