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Lmao. Donating to organizations and charity is a waste of money. They are just grifts that take a majority of those donations to enrich their executives and maybe 5-15% actually goes to the cause you support.
Im too poor to give either money but i would rather see it go to someone who brought awareness to the issue and inspired more class consciousness and solidarity than the wall street military industry profiteer owned democrat party ever has.
Really telling that you pretend to care about "awareness" of a problem and at the same time don't care about saving lives like this one:
Oh fuck right off. Murdering more health insurance CEOs would save that child, not “donating” to the hospital.
Fuck for profit healthcare. Time to human sacrifice more CEOs into the volcano until things change.
That child literally will not be saved by removing CEOs. Even if you somehow magically make it virtually impossible for a New CEO to take their place with a nonexistent army, the funding needs to be distributed to the hospital and killing CEOs doesn't make that happen.
Electing Democrats and Independents makes that happen. Removing Republicans from congress makes that happen.
No, it demonstrably does not.
We demonstrably got Medicaid Expansion and pre-existing condition protections when we gave them 59 votes in 2010, would have gotten Single Payer if we gave them one more. We haven't even tried to give them those numbers since.
Charaty is disingenuous. it attempts to burden the working class by paying some of what little they have to alleviate the societal problems caused by wealth inequity and a system that putts profits for a few over the lives and well beings of those actually doing the work and their loved ones. If we had medicare for all then this poor beautiful child would well be taken care of. And All the money thats otherwise used to pad the pockets of people who spend more on a weekend vacation than you or i could earn in a dozen consecutive lifetimes could be spent on research and medical care thats often denied to bolster profits. Go guilt trip the insurance companies who are responsible for the deaths of 180 human beings on aberage every day due to claim denials. How many of them are children?
I'm just saying if you're going to throw your money around on a cause, there are better options than Mangione. Insurance companies denied claims yesterday and they'll deny claims tomorrow, you haven't done shit about it.
Instead of petulantly thinking that everyone has started supporting random murder, maybe actually consider the reasons Luigi gave for killing this man and that maybe it's those reasons and not random street violence which people are supporting?
The situation is so dire, so many people are dying out of the greed of people's profiting from the crazy system that murdering those people seems like a reasonable response.
Think about that.
What sort of a situation would result in murder actually being a reasonable choice? Because America is in that situation.
Reasons mean fuck all, I'm a consequentialist.
Well the consequences of our health care system has you arguing in bad faith about donating to children’s hospitals being a moral spend of money.
Arguably, it perpetuates the system.
The fuck is in bad faith? I'm serious. Any penny you would have sent to Luigi is infinitely more impactful when sent to a real charity that helps real innocents.
Yeah well let's check back in ten years and see what the consequences were. The global society, or even just the American society, is pretty large. Things which change in populations of hundreds of millions don't happen instantly.
We know there's a strong reaction from the corporate class, vis-a-vis added security, charging the woman who quoted Luigi, etc etc. We also know that Luigi has immense support behind him.
And you don't see that as being a developing situation? You've just called it that "nothing happened his actions meant nothing"? I'm starting to feel like you're some corporate troll. I'm not saying you are, but your breath clearly smells of boot-leather.
Luigi doesn't have a majority of support in any demographic, their highest is 41% among young voters and thats when you add the somewhat supports and definitely supports together into one group.
And whether you support him or not makes no difference. He isn't a senator or a city mayor.
Oh corporate polls don't showed support for a person who murdered a corpo?
I'm socked.
Which one was Rosa Parks?
Ohhhh~ those corporate demographers! How dare they spend their life in academics for the system! /s
Rosa Parks wasn't immortalized for clubbing a bus driver over the head until he died, she was immortalized for peacefully abstaining from a system that a majority of people disagreed with.
If they actually were for the system, they probably would not have been murdered.
You fucking dare pretend these selfish pricks who would sell their own daughter to sex slavery for a good price are doing it "for the wider society"?
I notice how you didn't answer me asking which one Rosa Park was, because it takes all air out of your wannabe gotcha.
Just for clarification, you're accusing me of licking the boots of St Jude's Childrens Hospital? Which you believe is evil?
I notice how you're still avoiding my question, bootlicker.
I actually made an edit to the comment below the question shortly after posting it, bootlicker. I apologize you were just too fast to see it, bootlicker.
Insults need to mean things, dipshit. I say "dipshit" because you clearly just felt "bootlicker" was offensive and because you're such a dipshit, thought it would be offensive to me, instead of just letting me know how fucking annoyed you are.
Still haven't answered. Which one was she? You don't answer because you know she was neither and still was hugely important, meaning your childish garbage about "he doesn't matter becsuse he's not a mayor" is proven so utterly wrong even you know it and thus have to avoid answering the question.
Right, well, you saying people who advocate for treating children's heart defects and cancer is "bootlicking" has as much meaning as me calling you a nazi scumsucker. We've long since devolved into nonsense insults, bootlicker.
You couldn't reason your "nazi scumsucker" if you tried.
That's the difference between us. My insults have a reason. Yours are arbitrary. You don't seem to possess the capacity to reason or to recognize you're fallible.
That's why you're trying to avoid answering my question so desperately. Because it proves your "point" just... so wrong.
What is this "reason" we speak of?
I genuinely pity people like you. Can't stand behind your own words but still egoistic enough to feel an obsession to make statements like:
Clearly that's utterly wrong. But like I said, you're incapable of reasoning anything, clearly, so I'm just gonna keep repeating it until you actually answer it or fuck off.
So I'm a boot licker for refusing to lick the boots of your icon...?
Who's asking you to agree with Rosa Parks? If you're for segregation, I can't help it. You seem like the type though, low intelligence, no courage, can't stand behind his own words.
You can't answer my question because Rosa Parks was neither a senator or a city mayor and still made a massive difference, because your implication was "if they're not this arbitrary title I wrote down they can never matter at all", like the dipshit you are.
Im not giving any money. Its winter and propane is $20 a refill lasting 3 days. Maybe ill send a christmas card I have some stamps lying around.
But the outpouring of support including people wanting to put money on mangione’s commissary is most likely due to the fact that many people have been thinking this for a while and if mangione is indeed responsible what he did was he said the quiet part out loud. And now the billionaires and their executive corporate pets are scrambling on pr and damage control to scold the rest of us for our irreverent response welcoming revolution and class war.