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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Social_Discussion@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

With my recent post I was trying to ask if there are other people like me who also feel that people seem to focus more and more on skin color and ethnicity in an unhealthy and obsessive way and I thought I'd find some people agreeing with me who also feel uncomfortable and stressed out by this.

But instead the overwhelming response was people trying to justify racism instead of agreeing that it's a bad thing and needs to end. As if they were trying to use every possible argument to bash on me and justify racism.

Why could it be the case that so many people here on Lemmy support racism? In my opinion there is no reason to discriminate someone based on their looks PERIOD!

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[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Previous post: https://lemmy.world/post/22763164

Skimmed through it, OP seems to say that acknowledging the way societies treat different ethnicities is racist.

[-] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's literally not at all what I meant. My post itself was acknowledging it (this post as well) and I was saying we need to end it to put people in boxes and treat them in this toxic/inequal way based on their skin or ethnicity! I'm saying people are racist for being racist, not for acknowledging that racism exist (cause with that logic I would be racist myself for acknowledging that racism exist). It's a simple logic no matter how much you try to twist my words.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lolola 12 points 2 weeks ago

Did this person for real see the cartoon with the fence and the boxes and keep arguing?

[-] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes that's what they say and not me. I'm saying we need to stop racism and not trying to justify it!

[-] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You should start judging people by their face value and not by what other people say

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

According to that, there is no better defender of women's rights than Donald trump, as he himself has declared.

Inadvertently or not, you've parroted a lot of Right Wing talking points. They usually insist thinking of race is itself racist, white people are actually the most discriminated and so on. From the Left, the refusal to see/think of race etc is a convenient way to ignore structural racism etc.

The first part of your last post comes across as a tone deaf right winger trying to say we should stop talking about race. And once people have read that first paragraph, they are unlikely to read much in depth of the next few.

[-] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

This has to be one of the most ignorant comments I've ever seen online

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This comment is literally giving you the correct answer to the question you asked.

I think centrist liberals lean on identity based politics hard so they don't have to engage with any material analysis of our society.

And even I, reading your posts, am like 'That's filled with more red flags then Red Square in the 60s for right wing coded talking points to justify racism.

If you use common bad faith right wing arguments, people will tune you out. If your arguments are close to those arguments and only separated by nuance, people will tune you out.

Edit: People have limited time and attention. Expecting them to interact with you the way you demand, rather than how people are won't work well for you.

[-] Social_Discussion@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's crazy how you're calling me right wing for saying I'm against racism.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Quote where I said that, if you have courage in your reading comprehension.

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