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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

Working class rebel vs Elite class looking for more control

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

This is your brain on a lack of class analysis

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

What the heck is an "elite class?" Where did Marx talk about it?

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Believe it or not, things can exist independently of Marx having described them.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

When everyone is using Class in a specific manner, the addition of a "class" that doesn't actually exist just for a quip is really odd. You have to make the argument that it even exists in the first place first.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

So which non-Marxist political economy or sociology defines this elite class? Usually class politics is attributed to Marx

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Please show your work. What is the proof that it was done for more control?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Are you asking for proof of Occupied China being a planned economy or that the party controls it?

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The comment I replied to says:

Working class rebel vs Elite class looking for more control

Notice the part highlighted in bold. I am asking for proof of this. In other words, proof that the Chinese government executed CEOs only because they sought "more control". Surely we are not expected to blindly trust this claim, right?

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Surely we are not expected to blindly trust this claim

Why not? They did when the CIA told it [to the journalists that repeated it] to them.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

So it’s planned economy that you’re disputing

I really can’t think of any proof that you would believe if you’re disputing that

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So it’s planned economy that you’re disputing

No.

My question is very clear, why can't you address it without pretending I asked something else?

Again, you made the claim that CEO executions were made for the reason of seeking more control. Please provide proof that they were done for this reason and not any other reason. I have not asked for planned economy proof or anything else.

If your next comment does not answer my question, then you are being intentionally misleading

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

If it’s a planned economy then the government controls it

You’re just saying the same thing

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

How do you twist yourself up in knots to not even get in the general vicinity of an evidence-based position and not wonder "damn, do I really not know shit about the stuff I'm so loud about "?

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